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Octafish

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20. Well, Lovey and I and some of the ''In Crowd'' will be out at sea, you might say.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 08:40 AM
Aug 2013


From the If You Have to Ask "How much?" You Can't Afford It Department:



The Really Creepy People Behind the Libertarian-Inspired Billionaire Sea Castles

The stinking rich are planning billion-dollar luxury liners that keep the land-based Americans they've plundered at a safe distance.

AlterNet / By Mark Ames
June 1, 2010

What happens when Americans plunder America and leave it broken, destitute and seething mad? Where do these fabulously wealthy Americans go with their loot, if America isn't a safe, secure, or even desirable place to spend their riches? What if they lose faith in their gated communities, because those plush gated communities are surrounded by millions of pissed-off Americans stripped of their entitlements, and who now want in?

The first such floating castle has been christened the " Utopia"--the South Korean firm Samsung has been contracted to build the $1.1 billion ship, due to be launched in 2013. Already orders are coming in to buy one of the Utopia's 200 or so mansions for sale- -which range in price from about $4 million for the smallest condos to over $26 million for 6,600 square-foot "estates." The largest mansion is a whopping 40,000 square feet, and sells for $160 million.

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Both Thiel and Milton Friedman's grandson see democracy as the enemy--last year, Thiel wrote "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible" at about the same time that Milton Friedman's grandson proclaimed, "Democracy is not the answer." Both published their anti-democracy proclamations in the same billionaire-Koch-family-funded outlet, Cato Unbound, one of the oldest billionaire-fed libertarian welfare dispensaries. Friedman's answer for Thiel's democracy problem is to build offshore libertarian pod-fortresses where the libertarian way rules. It's probably better for everyone if Milton Friedman's grandson and Peter Thiel leave us forever for their libertarian ocean lair--Thiel believes that America went down the tubes ever since it gave women the right to vote, and he was outed as the sponsor of accused felon James O'Keefe's smear videos that brought ACORN to ruin.

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While neither Bush nor the Bin Ladens are principals in the Frontier Group, its founding director, Frank Carlucci, is a name they know well, and you should too. Carlucci ran the Carlyle Group as its chairman from 1989 through 2005, right around the time that the wars started going undeniably bad, and floating castles started to look like a viable plan. But Carlucci's past is much weirder and scarier than most of us care to know: whether it's his strangely timed appearances in some of the ugliest assassinations and coups in modern history, or serving as Carter's number two man in the CIA, and Ronald Reagan's Secretary of Defense, if Frank Carlucci (nicknamed "Creepy Carlucci" and "Spooky Frank&quot is the founding director of a firm that's building floating castles, it's a bad sign for those of us left behind.

I'll get into Carlucci's partners in the Frontier Group in a moment, but first, let's reacquaint ourselves with Frank Carlucci. From an early age, Carlucci learned the importance of getting to know the right people in the right places. He studied at Princeton in the mid-1950s, where as luck should have it, Carlucci roomed with Donald Rumsfeld. Both Carlucci and Rumsfeld shared a passion for Greco-Roman wrestling at Princeton, and both went on to serve in the Navy after Princeton. Their paths would split and merge several times over the next few decades, even as they remained close personal friends throughout their lives. In the late 1950s, Carlucci briefly served as an executive at a lingerie manufacturer, Jantzen (the Victoria's Secret of its day), but quickly left to join the State Department.

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http://www.alternet.org/story/147058/the_really_creepy_people_behind_the_libertarian-inspired_billionaire_sea_castles



As the world's billions feast on whatever remains to cannibalize on land during the post-war upheavals, rest assured that America's best people -- the "Have-Mores" -- won't have to settle for anything less than the finest in accommodations, thanks to the BFEE.

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Two Bullets [View all] Octafish Aug 2013 OP
The type of the pacts which drew all of Europe into war don't really exist today... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #1
What of the mutual defense pact with Iran? Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #2
"We will see you on the Plains of Megiddo. Snarl. Hate. Snarl." - Megiddites (R - GlobalStyle) Berlum Aug 2013 #18
Well, Lovey and I and some of the ''In Crowd'' will be out at sea, you might say. Octafish Aug 2013 #20
All aboard for a cruise on The Radioactive Sea (Fukushima Style) Berlum Aug 2013 #23
That's true, and we are not on Syria's frontier Kolesar Aug 2013 #3
Very true. Octafish Aug 2013 #5
And... There Are Russian Soldiers On The Ground In Syria... And Iran Has Threatend Isreal... And... WillyT Aug 2013 #11
And if worse comes to worse, there is no JFK to handle a missile crisis. truedelphi Aug 2013 #13
JFK said, ''No'' to those wanting war at least four times. Octafish Aug 2013 #19
War is Welfare for Warmongers Octafish Aug 2013 #17
And, they all believed it would be a short, inexpensive, war. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #4
One thing led to another. Octafish Aug 2013 #7
I FOR ONE BELIEVE THE BANKERS AND THE MINISTERS ALL KNEW IT WOULD GO ON AND ON. truedelphi Aug 2013 #9
Yes, some people would probably like to see WWIII leftstreet Aug 2013 #6
Anyone seen Bandar Bush, lately? Octafish Aug 2013 #8
Rec AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #10
Robert Scheer goes back to the old Ramparts Magazine MinM Aug 2013 #21
For telling the truth about Bush and Iraq, Robert Scheer lost his LA Times gig to Jonah Goldberg. Octafish Aug 2013 #24
Bullet 3. In Dallas. 1963. trof Aug 2013 #12
Money would not trump peace. Octafish Aug 2013 #14
Knew it! greytdemocrat Aug 2013 #15
Hiya, greytdemocrat! It's multi-generational warmongering... Octafish Aug 2013 #16
Almost forgot to say... Octafish Aug 2013 #22
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