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In reply to the discussion: I don't enjoy GD anymore [View all]TM99
(8,352 posts)1) He didn't end Iraq. It was already ending when Bush left office. In fact, he wanted to keep troops there longer.
2) Afghanistan has ended? No not yet. He announced a withdrawal by the end of this year of 30,000 troops and yet he has also not committed to what number will be there in 2014 for the NATO portion of the war. Numbers proposed included around 10,000.
3) One President? Easy....LBJ.
4) Spoiled? Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, I am so spoiled because I want universal healthcare for everyone including yourself. But what did the ACA provide? Universal Health Insurance. While this may help some, it also hurts many others. And the only ones really helped are the insurance companies. Single payer is no more a guaranteed on the way than the repeal of the temporary Bush tax cuts, the closing of Guantanamo Bay, or the end of the Patriot Act which candidate Obama offered.
5) He 'evolved' on gay rights. Enough said.
6) I said I was vilified. I did not vote for Bush either time. Nor did I vote for Obama in 2008. I saw both men very clearly for who they were and what they would ultimately do or not do for this country. Democratic true believers are absolutely no different than Republican ones. You want to know why? Human psychology. Period.
7) He fixes problems? No prosecution of those who lied us into the Iraq & Afghanistan Wars, and he is now actively pursuing immunity for them. Not enough of a financial stimulus package such that only Wall Street has benefited from the 'recovery'. Increased drone strikes. Reauthorized the Patriot Act with additions. Allowed for Bush era surveillance state 'reforms' to be expanded and trying to convince us that they are helpful and not invasive. The ACA is a joke when it comes to actual health care for the majority of Americans. We don't need 'affordable' insurance, we need affordable care. Maybe you are too young to understand that yet.
Finally, yes you proved yet again why those of us who are rightfully pissed at Obama do come across as venomous. I attacked Obama in my reply to you. You attacked me in your reply back defending 'your' president, calling me spoiled, assuming that I voted for Bush, and being a snarky wise ass.
Grow up.