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kpete

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Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:42 AM Aug 2013

Who knew that the Chemical Weapons Convention trumps the U.S. Constitution? [View all]

Carney pretty much gave away Obama's entire legal argument for intervention:

The Chemical Weapons Convention has more than 150 signatories and makes clear that the use and proliferation of chemical weapons is a clear violation of international norms, and that it is absolutely in the national security interest of the Unites States and in the international community that the use of chemical weapons on the scale that we saw on August 21st cannot be ignored. It must be responded to.

Because to allow it to happen without a response would be to invite further use of chemical weapons and to have that international standard dissolve. And the consequences of that, given the volatility of the region and the concerns that this nation and many others have about proliferation of chemical weapons, would be very serious indeed.


In the Libyan intervention, a vaguely worded UN resolution replaced congressional authorization. A UN resolution is clearly not obtainable for the coming Syrian adventure, so the new fallback is the Chemical Weapons Convention. Apparently the upholding of this Convention is sufficiently vital that it obviates any need for congressional authorization of force.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/08/27/press-briefing-press-secretary-jay-carney-8272013
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Who knew the Founding Fathers didn't include chemical weapons? DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #1
The Constitution gives Congress the power to declare snappyturtle Aug 2013 #4
Strange. There is a treaty banning the use of clusterbombs but the US uses them Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #2
Maybe Saudi Arabia would like some depleted uranium snappyturtle Aug 2013 #6
The US is not a signatory to that treaty... JayhawkSD Aug 2013 #11
And there lies the rub. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #14
Hey now, atrocities are conveniences when going to war bobduca Aug 2013 #17
But it's OK if our guy does it ...... oldhippie Aug 2013 #3
How does a treaty duly enacted pursuant to the process described in the Constitution? treestar Aug 2013 #5
It's not "thorny" at all. woo me with science Aug 2013 #8
Now it's BS propaganda to adhere to the Constitution? treestar Aug 2013 #9
... woo me with science Aug 2013 #10
OK you have a problem with our form of government. treestar Aug 2013 #12
I don't "have a problem" with our form of government, treestar. woo me with science Aug 2013 #15
Your first paragraph is unfair - here you are complaining about treestar Aug 2013 #20
You know what trumps the Constitution these days? woo me with science Aug 2013 #7
Now they are telling us that the Constitution just means whatever ... dawg Aug 2013 #13
It's just fucking surreal. woo me with science Aug 2013 #16
"If voting changed anything, Hydra Aug 2013 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #18
This is just about face saving. If the president hadn't drawn a line... polichick Aug 2013 #21
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