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99th_Monkey

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53. Congress shall make no law "abridging the freedom of speech, or of THE PRESS"

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:26 PM

Aug 2013

freedom of speech = everyone
freedom of PRESS = THE PRESS <-- THIS was spelled out, for EMPHASIS, by the framers.

Is that clear enough for you?

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Obama doubles-down w/NYTs James Risen: rat on your sources or 'Go straight to jail. Do not pass go' [View all] 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 OP

What the heck is wrong with this admin continually going after reporters? I can't remember ever... Little Star Aug 2013 #1

We got bait and switched. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #2

My worst fear of a Pres. Rmoney tblue Aug 2013 #13

What Zappa said 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #3

The curtains are certainly being pulled back at an alarming rate. Little Star Aug 2013 #4

Another story used to confuse people who don't understand the issues: treestar Aug 2013 #5

Settled law, reporters have no right to conceal crimes Progressive dog Aug 2013 #6

But that won't stop some DUers from misrepresenting the issue... SidDithers Aug 2013 #11

That's not the issue. Octafish Aug 2013 #47

I guess if it is "settled" we can't argue with that,. . LOL Civilization2 Aug 2013 #21

settled law treestar Aug 2013 #24

the question is what constitutes a crime,. leaking the doings of our gov. seems like public service! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #28

It may seem like a public service, but it is a crime according to treestar Aug 2013 #31

Like the banksters, or the corporate pillagers,. or the warmonger politicos that kill millions? Civilization2 Aug 2013 #36

You mean you don't find our criminal justice system adequate? treestar Aug 2013 #40

Funny you should think it is settled law. The SC ruled, in the Ellsberg case that the NYT sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #44

Settled law is law that has been decided treestar Aug 2013 #45

Like Affirmative Action? Octafish Aug 2013 #49

Yes, those were laws, and they've been followed treestar Aug 2013 #50

So, ''settled law'' is settled when you say it is? Octafish Aug 2013 #51

It's settled when the courts have followed it treestar Aug 2013 #52

Our elected government deemed it so, Progressive dog Aug 2013 #62

Crimes on Wall Street have been concealed for decades. mick063 Aug 2013 #34

Two wrongs don't make a right. Progressive dog Aug 2013 #61

The DOJ is one big fail mick063 Aug 2013 #64

That prosecutors even NEED Risen's testimony at all, is highly questionable. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #7

Witnesses don't get to determine the importance of their own testimony. msanthrope Aug 2013 #14

can the doj get anything right? questionseverything Aug 2013 #29

not exactly the same rights questionseverything Aug 2013 #30

the important thing is to get Cha Aug 2013 #8

The administration has no credibility left, woo me with science Aug 2013 #18

So the court opinion is talking points? treestar Aug 2013 #25

People conveniently forget this part. Whisp Aug 2013 #23

I thought secrets were bad and info wanted to be free? Recursion Aug 2013 #9

Journalism 101 -> protecting confidentiality of sources 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #10

Yeah, and journalists have gone to jail for that Recursion Aug 2013 #12

It is kind of funny though that treestar Aug 2013 #26

Reporters acting like they "are above the law" 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #35

This is not a matter of free speech treestar Aug 2013 #41

Because no where in MY copy of the US Constitution does it state that Banksters are protected 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #42

The Constitution applies to everyone treestar Aug 2013 #46

Congress shall make no law "abridging the freedom of speech, or of THE PRESS" 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #53

The Risen case is about something different treestar Aug 2013 #57

"...without a legitimate need of law enforcement" <-- the operative phrase 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #58

Seriously? Brewinblue Aug 2013 #16

It's this administration that should be jailed. K&R :-| n/t DeSwiss Aug 2013 #15

...and the last one as well. It seems to be a trend. n/t xocet Aug 2013 #22

Indeed. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #37

Obama promised "Transparency" when he was campaigning, but Hubert Flottz Aug 2013 #17

You did not think he meant that classified information could be leaked whenever? treestar Aug 2013 #32

President Bush is a thug. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #19

The United States of America is now a surveillance state woo me with science Aug 2013 #20

That really does sum up our sorry-ass situation pretty well. eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #43

So all you outraged people want Iran to have nukes? DevonRex Aug 2013 #27

Honestly treestar Aug 2013 #33

I have decided what I finally said in my post. IMO it is the only logical DevonRex Aug 2013 #39

Bet the same people defending this now rightfully would have torn Bush a new forestpath Aug 2013 #38

That is painfully clear isn't it? 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #54

.... forestpath Aug 2013 #55

Ahh..I see. nice one. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #56

Question … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #48

Since when does the first amendment apply to Russia, China or Israel? LiberalAndProud Aug 2013 #59

I would have thought ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #63

Obama's defenders can't see the irony alarimer Aug 2013 #60

If the White House cannot imprison journalists how can we call ourselves free?! Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #65