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JohnnyRingo

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150. So you're calling me sick?

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:18 PM

Aug 2013

Go fuck your morally superior self and welcome to the adult world.

Besides, I pointed out how govt buildings and infrastructure are likely vacant. If a few residual govt workers remain on the job in a completely non-functioning government, we were courtious enough to give them the date and time to take a vacation day.

How you presume I want us to hit schools and nursing homes is beyond me.

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I fucking can't believe John Kerry [View all] Taverner Aug 2013 OP

I'm not sure why any of this surprises anyone anymore NoOneMan Aug 2013 #1

Well...you aren't the only one...and he isn't the first or last one to disappoint...but.. KoKo Aug 2013 #148

I think we.... sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #2

LOL Taverner Aug 2013 #21

You are aware that his words are the opinion of his boss, the POTUS, yes? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #3

Then he should do the right thing. sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #6

Who should resign? uppityperson Aug 2013 #8

The same man who on 23 Apr 71.... sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #14

Wow. DU R & K to the max. Welcome to DU in these sad times... nt riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #15

You think Kerry should resign? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #18

Yes. sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #24

I have to disagree with you on this. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #25

I can respect your opinion. sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #28

Sadly this is true. This is one reason I have deep reservations about this. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #34

More people will die if we enter this mess. Have we learned nothing from history? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #117

No, we are not good at learning. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #118

Ah well, money trumps peace...or something like that. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #132

The Powers To Be are loving this. More profits for the corporations. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #134

And how many will die because we won't enter? mythology Aug 2013 #155

Rethink Yugoslavia and Saudi-Armed Jihadi "Rebels" HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #156

+! Little Star Aug 2013 #177

Before we start or enter a war, the President should convince Congress that rhett o rick Aug 2013 #176

There is no guarantee that our killing with bombs and missiles will prevent further deaths. Most rhett o rick Aug 2013 #181

He has none of the above - he caved when Bush jacked that election elehhhhna Aug 2013 #113

There is precedent for a Secretary of State resigning in protest. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #49

Perhaps this is his POV. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #50

I was responding to a posters suggestion that his words are the opinion of his boss, the POTUS. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #66

Oh ok thanks. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #67

The operation was sabotaged by George Bush & his CIA buddies. Carter's "secret" was no secret to the loudsue Aug 2013 #65

I only raised that as an example of a secretary of state resigning in protest. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #69

Eagle-Claw - Oliver North and Richard Secord Ran It HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #157

Thank you so much for this post, H & R! It still pisses me off how horribly corrupt the bush family loudsue Aug 2013 #171

should never taken the position to begin with G_j Aug 2013 #130

How sad, there must be something in the water in DC. So many of them seem to lose their souls sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #39

we should send him postcards with this quote on it annm4peace Aug 2013 #43

This isn't war, it is a humanitary strike. American lives are not in the line of fire. wisteria Aug 2013 #70

"a humanitary strike" NealK Aug 2013 #108

Touche Carolina Aug 2013 #131

Tell that to the people on the wrong end of the bombs Cal Carpenter Aug 2013 #129

Thank you for posting this for the record. n/t Raksha Aug 2013 #162

So an even more hawkish SecState can be appointed? Recursion Aug 2013 #22

Just following orders...where have I heard that before? bowens43 Aug 2013 #10

Why bother voting? pokerfan Aug 2013 #120

If he finds it morally wrong, he should do what many people of principle have done, even sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #36

I never liked the man. We should have had Howard Dean against Bush, not Kerry. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #4

I still believe Howard Dean would have won LearningCurve Aug 2013 #13

What ifs. Dean crashed and burned over his own ego. wisteria Aug 2013 #71

DLC and DNC didn't like Dean fadedrose Aug 2013 #100

Howard Dean is not ordering strikes on Syria. Taverner Aug 2013 #142

Agreed. And Dean would've won. Taverner Aug 2013 #20

Ah, now I know where you are coming from. wisteria Aug 2013 #72

Nope - I was down with Kerry in 04 Taverner Aug 2013 #74

This isn't war. wisteria Aug 2013 #80

Tell that to the families of those who we bomb next week n/t Taverner Aug 2013 #81

LOL, like SOS Kerry is the only one making decisions. wisteria Aug 2013 #79

The pundists took the "Dean Scream" and ran with it. Quantess Aug 2013 #112

Are you aware that the media blocked the background noise truebluegreen Aug 2013 #121

No, as is hardly anybody else! Quantess Aug 2013 #123

Do you seriouslly not exepct Kerry, or any Secretary of State, to state the Administrations policy? Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #5

Yes I expect those we have entrusted with the power to make decisions for all of us sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #42

Because you disagree with the decision doesn't mean that the decision isn't reasoned Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #46

Of course Vietnam started as a limited intervention, no one said 'let's send 58,000 men to die' Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #52

Why is this the business of the US? International Law makes this the purview of the UN sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #54

This is why. go west young man Aug 2013 #58

As stated by Carney, it is critical to national security to act when Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #59

Ah yes "Credibility" bobduca Aug 2013 #62

No, it's about upholding international law not credibility. n/t Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #64

You've got to be kidding. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #97

Touche Sabrina 1 Carolina Aug 2013 #136

Excellent post, Carolina. And it goes back even further. Remember what we did to Native sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #146

Yep. Pretty much. Taverner Aug 2013 #147

BINGO!!!!! Little Star Aug 2013 #170

You do realize Syria has a cache of chemical weapons right? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #90

You do realize that the US has the biggest cache of Chemical weapons in the history of the sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #92

Wow, Sabrina! HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #95

Okay you are prepared to say to the world that if anyone wants to gas babies in their beds..... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #96

Excuse me??? I am saying that the US used White Phosphorous in Iraq. Have you read the sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #99

So why hasn't the world indicted us? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #101

Lol, that is funny. We BOMB people who don't go along with us. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #103

Oh right our allies are our allies cauxe we bombed them previously yes right...obviously! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #104

You don't know much about US history, do you? Tell me, why do we have so many sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #106

Lay it on, Sabrina 1 Carolina Aug 2013 #137

Superb posts, sabrina. woo me with science Aug 2013 #166

+1 deutsey Aug 2013 #182

Wait don't tell me...fans of Snowden, Assange and Greenwald right? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #183

The difference is ....we aren't TARGETTING civilians...but Assad did! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #184

In the cases of Germany and Japan...yes. nt CJCRANE Aug 2013 #122

sabrina 1, these are 2 excellent posts that I urge you to put in an OP. Please remind people of our chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #102

I know what you mean re not sleeping at night. The horror of war seems to escape those who sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #139

I second chimpymustgo's comment. Thanks for all you are explaining regarding this. Little Star Aug 2013 #178

Your rationalization for war needs help. Are you going to limit killing those that rhett o rick Aug 2013 #180

+1 for Aerows Aug 2013 #124

You can't get to where he is without holding certain views and taking certain actions. Renew Deal Aug 2013 #7

He and Colin Powell are birds of a feather bowens43 Aug 2013 #9

+1 nt riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #16

Disappointed Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #11

Yes - at least dissappointed Taverner Aug 2013 #27

If the Republicans weren't in control of the House Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #126

John Kerry "On the Issues" Renew Deal Aug 2013 #12

Yeeh why are people surprised? Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #17

Yes, yes yes, I was wrong, you were right.... Taverner Aug 2013 #19

I wasn't right Renew Deal Aug 2013 #23

I'm not mad at you Taverner Aug 2013 #26

I know Renew Deal Aug 2013 #33

Kerry doesn't need Obama to tell him what to say Lifelong Dem Aug 2013 #30

All those votes---I wonder if there will be a vote with Syria? panader0 Aug 2013 #38

Some members of Congress are asking for a vote Maedhros Aug 2013 #63

LOL @ this whole thread. tridim Aug 2013 #29

Explain and I shall retort Taverner Aug 2013 #37

Kerry served in Vietnam at exactly the same time our air force was dropping HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #31

I swear, why do I always fall for their BS? Taverner Aug 2013 #32

Because you're desperate? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #51

Because Pravda is the only news we get n/t Taverner Aug 2013 #86

See? You really need to use the Interne,....oh... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #87

Touche HT99! Carolina Aug 2013 #138

His Hypocrisy in that speech when he knew about Agent Orange KoKo Aug 2013 #169

I haven't followed Kerry's life arc closely enough to know when he HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #172

At the WH, first meeeting... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #35

LOL - They have a "Confabulator" on Air Force One too, I think. HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #158

Why did you tear up the pavement for him in 2006? blue neen Aug 2013 #40

I'm a procrastinator. nt. Taverner Aug 2013 #141

skull and bones member...nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #41

I can't believe it took this long for DU to descend to this level of stupidity again. I say again KittyWampus Aug 2013 #44

He is a member of Skull and Bones, and *'s 2nd cousin. Why attack someone stating a fact? nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #57

he has also been married twice, has 2 daughters, ........ JI7 Aug 2013 #60

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #73

coudl they have been the ones who planted the chemical weapons ? JI7 Aug 2013 #77

You don't seem to like us. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #107

Not sure I get your point. Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #164

He is not Bush's second cousin karynnj Aug 2013 #128

I did have the relationship wrong, but he is a distant relative. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2013 #163

As is almost anybody with roots in the elite of colonial New England karynnj Aug 2013 #165

+++++1 wisteria Aug 2013 #82

Yes, I keep forgetting that. They know his sexual proclivities. Taverner Aug 2013 #143

The problem is NOT John Kerry jazzimov Aug 2013 #45

+++++11111 wisteria Aug 2013 #83

Is it even slightly possible that Kerry knows... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #47

Exactly what would justify indiscriminate bombing? Taverner Aug 2013 #48

No plan has been agreed to yet, so where does... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #56

That's what it ALWAYS is Taverner Aug 2013 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #110

Yes my stated agenda is the truth Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #53

So that makes Kerry wrong? TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #55

Human beings are capable of being Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #68

How likely is it then... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #94

So If I'm against Bombing and I am wrong , who did I wrongly kill ? bahrbearian Aug 2013 #109

WAR IS A RACKET Taverner Aug 2013 #85

That was beautiful libodem Aug 2013 #89

+1111 wisteria Aug 2013 #84

look lcordero2 Aug 2013 #61

Since you and John Kerry are equally informed.... JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #75

Tell me at this point, who deserves bombings? Taverner Aug 2013 #78

I was just helping with your thread count. JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #111

Hear hear lumpy Aug 2013 #88

Here's a strategy: Stay out of the fucking mess. We cant win. We wont help anyone. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #114

At first I wondered why we're telegraphing our move. JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #135

Your rationalization to kill, kill is sick at best. There is nothing good that can come from our rhett o rick Aug 2013 #149

So you're calling me sick? JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #150

Your rationalization is naive at best. I dont claim to be morally superior but I am against the rhett o rick Aug 2013 #151

I don't think we need to continue this discussion. JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #167

You are absolutely right. I apologize for any name calling. I am frustrated that we are rhett o rick Aug 2013 #175

"Pre War Advertising" is done by P.R. Firms HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #159

Yep. Pretty much. Taverner Aug 2013 #144

Yes, it is sad. The man who in his youth said in front of Congress 7wo7rees Aug 2013 #91

here it is in a toon from Danzinger 7wo7rees Aug 2013 #98

Isn't Kerry doing his job and from the point of view of morality? lexington filly Aug 2013 #93

It IS About Oil and Money HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #160

I understand he's not exactly sold Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #105

Not quite. One wants to kill people. If we enter this mess, more children will die for sure. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #115

Yes, of course. Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #125

It isnt hard. If we send cruise missiles, they will kill people. To think he hasnt rhett o rick Aug 2013 #133

I cant believe the hypocrisy. We are going to bomb Syria because of human rights rhett o rick Aug 2013 #116

It depends on the opinion polls. Taverner Aug 2013 #145

They're all in the mic now. polichick Aug 2013 #119

"Last one who wasn't was JFK" Taverner Aug 2013 #140

I know how you feel Carolina Aug 2013 #127

Hey, you guys! Call/email the White House! raging moderate Aug 2013 #152

Money and power trump all jsr Aug 2013 #153

President Obama and Mr. Kerry know exactly what they're doing.... OccupyOregon Aug 2013 #154

Why is Kerry auditioning to be the next Colin Powell? Raksha Aug 2013 #161

Not auditioning. He got the part. This is the performance. KurtNYC Aug 2013 #173

Why Kerry�s Speech Doesn�t Necessarily Mean We�re Going To War In Syria ProSense Aug 2013 #168

Kerry makes me sick to my stomach! That's about all I can say, here. n/t truth2power Aug 2013 #174

I think you mean "04" not "06" in your original post. John1956PA Aug 2013 #179