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91. Victory would involve enough House seats to run a functioning government and DNC failed

Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:21 AM

Aug 2013

in that regard. Can we pass bills and run this nation? Not so much. Why is that? Radical Republicans who were victorious over enough 'Blue Doggies' or 'Moderate Bipartisans' to hold us all hostage for years.
Without Libya, who knows? You sure don't. You are standing with a very tiny pro war group at this point.
I do not know even one person who supports bombing Syria. There are the few of you on DU, but frankly brooklynite, you who support it support anything the administration wants. Same lot was 'against marriage equality because civil unions are just as good and marriage is just a word' until the day Obama 'changed his mind' and then poof, so did all the DU civil Union boosters. You must know that stuff degrades your opinion into something that is clearly affected and inauthentic.
Oh, and we bought Obama's 'evolution' with money and pressure. It was not what he wanted to do, but money talks and bullshit walks. Civil Unions indeed. Did you support 'marriage is just a word civil Unions are all we can get for now' theory? Of course you did.

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9% approval for bombing Syria = suicide for Dems in 2014 [View all] nashville_brook Aug 2013 OP

second verse, same as the first MisterP Aug 2013 #1

DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #2

Too true. another_liberal Aug 2013 #41

There can be no better illustration of how unrepresentative DU is than this n2doc Aug 2013 #3

Anybody have on any numbers on pro-bombing DU'ers? philly_bob Aug 2013 #6

There was one in GD. JoeyT Aug 2013 #12

Thanks. 93% against to 7% for U.S. strike on Syria! Wow! (nt) philly_bob Aug 2013 #75

Up to 94% against now. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #84

IOW 93% don't give a rat's azz golfguru Aug 2013 #178

Lie piled atop a steaming pile of NeoCon BS. Shame! - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #182

outrageously out of kilter. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #20

What is? That poster's assertion is total rubbish. There aren't "a lot" of bloodthirsty DU'ers KittyWampus Aug 2013 #42

I agree. There're only a few of you. delrem Aug 2013 #44

I hate to disagree with you doc, but the pro-war contingency here maybe loud, but they are sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #24

go figure... delrem Aug 2013 #74

I hope Skinner is aware that the think tank crowd is destroying his website as well as ushering in grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #34

See my #82. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #83

there are "a lot" of bloodthirsty posters here? Really? Care to characterize how many is "a lot"? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #39

"thin-skinned DU'ers...unable to handle dissenting opinions" nashville_brook Aug 2013 #71

We're not "unable to handle" pro-war opinions. Maedhros Aug 2013 #120

With hyperbolic statements Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #140

I'm not following you. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #141

examples? nashville_brook Aug 2013 #166

Bloodthirsty DUers Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #175

Isn't it sad that it has become impossible to actually have a discussion about this - arely staircase Aug 2013 #188

There is a poll of DUers that shows the exact opposite. 94% of DUers opposed stevenleser Aug 2013 #82

You and your facts Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #139

Yeah, I know, I'm a real party pooper that way. stevenleser Aug 2013 #142

i don't think that poll says what you think it says. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #167

Enlighten us Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #176

The number of Pro-War DUers is very small Marrah_G Aug 2013 #86

Is a screaming tea kettle 'vocal' or just loud? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #88

lol Marrah_G Aug 2013 #89

perception /= reality Bradical79 Aug 2013 #108

And how successful they have been . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #134

I've been incredibly busy so I haven't scoured DU the way I do sometimes tavalon Aug 2013 #109

Apparently one is too many... Blanks Aug 2013 #113

It's not, it's a paraphrase of something our silverspoon sociopath, dubya once said tavalon Aug 2013 #114

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. KamaAina Aug 2013 #115

Too subtle I guess. Blanks Aug 2013 #131

I knew what you meant LearningCurve Aug 2013 #143

I figured you just thought I was a moron... Blanks Aug 2013 #149

Howzabout a War on Greed? :) - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #183

That makes more sense. Blanks Aug 2013 #190

There's this one: NealK Aug 2013 #148

that's a good one -- i think the poster can search in the last week and find plenty more nashville_brook Aug 2013 #168

Bloodthirsty posters??? Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #118

Here comes . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #135

Hyperbole or bloodthirsty DUer? Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #136

I do not . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #145

Oh, and please point to any post by me that supports your claim Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #138

Claim? another_liberal Aug 2013 #144

Yes Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #177

You want me to say I'm sorry? another_liberal Aug 2013 #187

"hyperbolic" -- word of the day!! everyone use the word "hyperbolic"! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #169

Cute Stuckinthebush Aug 2013 #174

yeah, the WaPo polling that I saw two days ago was 79% against... grasswire Aug 2013 #4

We'll either be at war by this time next week or we'll see the first of the resignations. If neither leveymg Aug 2013 #32

that's an interesting idea -- i bet there are those staking their "public" career on this... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #171

No trying to be disagreeable... jimlup Aug 2013 #5

I agree. dawg Aug 2013 #101

A lot of just-out-of-high-school kids sign up for service at the lowest levels JDPriestly Aug 2013 #150

More than that actually jimlup Aug 2013 #179

It may not be popular, but it isn't high on most voter's priority list either. tritsofme Aug 2013 #7

it will be. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #28

If it leads to a lot of deaths, it will become a high priority. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #33

So voting really doesn't matter Carolina Aug 2013 #8

absolutely nothing! robinlynne Aug 2013 #67

Say it again. iemitsu Aug 2013 #130

lol! robinlynne Aug 2013 #181

Slogans don't do it for me. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #78

It's been good at raping the environment as well. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #151

9% approval??? bvar22 Aug 2013 #9

At what point does the U.S. public say enough is enough. Tired of the lies and misinformation. YOHABLO Aug 2013 #10

Which isn't at all likely to happen.(yes, that is a fact, by the way). EOM. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #49

Those facts come with a crystal ball? WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #157

No, but what I said is true: WWIII just isn't all that likely in this day and age. eom AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #170

You don't give the human race enough credit to be stupid WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #172

I doubt that. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #173

You really have a very poor understanding of 1914 and the move to all-out war - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #184

To the contrary, in fact. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #185

1914 did not see a move from peace to 'total war' overnight. Instead, there was a HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #191

"1914 did not see a move from peace to 'total war' overnight." That's what *I* just said......... AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #192

Encroaching senility explains my inadvertent reference to the 'Soviets' - I'm leaving HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #193

People have war fatigue fujiyama Aug 2013 #11

this goes to the heart of the lack of support, and not just on the part of Americans nashville_brook Aug 2013 #103

more presidenting while black? georgee lies amerika into Iwaq + we pound afghanistan w/ hardly a pansypoo53219 Aug 2013 #13

There was quite a peep from many of us when Bush raged to war. No one listened. Autumn Aug 2013 #21

exactly. There were thousands of us in the streets and only foreign news cameras. robinlynne Aug 2013 #68

Hundreds of thousands. Maedhros Aug 2013 #122

Thank-you! robinlynne Aug 2013 #180

The problem was GREED pure and simple. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #161

Oh no. I'm not about to buy what they are selling. Autumn Aug 2013 #163

I find your post rather offensive BrotherIvan Aug 2013 #31

Apparently this is the subtext here, as the think tank crowd reaches deep into their psy-op bag of grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #43

Just because you werent listening to us quakerboy Aug 2013 #52

If invading Syria had been linked to ending the 1973 Oil Crisis, HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #69

Hardly a peep? Doctor_J Aug 2013 #154

I stood on a busy corner in San Diego in 2004 with a sign WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #164

K&R Ocelot Aug 2013 #14

= suicide in 2014 AND 2016. Shanti Mama Aug 2013 #15

being a local kind of person, i've 2014 on the brain nashville_brook Aug 2013 #22

Right.....like the Libya involvment led to defeat in 2012? brooklynite Aug 2013 #62

Victory would involve enough House seats to run a functioning government and DNC failed Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #91

Because of Libya? Or because of Gerrymandering in 2010? brooklynite Aug 2013 #105

As democrats who are we going to vote for? Repukes??? I think not... ileus Aug 2013 #16

with a 9% approval rating it's the swing vote that's a concern. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #27

The casuals and the throngs that voted for change in 2008 will stay home in droves Doctor_J Aug 2013 #156

Not necessarily. The US might be at a turning point. delrem Aug 2013 #47

I will not vote for any Democrat that supports Syrian intervention Maedhros Aug 2013 #125

You got that right. Autumn Aug 2013 #17

It's hard to know how they will position themselves... Maybe to the Militant RW? KoKo Aug 2013 #18

That can't be. I've been told on DU just yesterday that I am a 'fringe' extremist who represents sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #19

it's amazing what happens when you don't get your news from DU... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #25

Peace Purist Puritan! leftstreet Aug 2013 #26

Welcome and revel in their hatred. They're just simple people that are seeing their fantasy crumble Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #119

I do revel in it. Those old labels have zero impact having being so overused and sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #123

"Left is Always Right" Always has been and there is no sign of that changing Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #124

I wish I could rec this twice. Vanje Aug 2013 #23

What has happened? What did I miss? Oye. Get a life. nt babylonsister Aug 2013 #29

Get a life? Enthusiast Aug 2013 #79

Less popular than Congress! sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author JustanAngel Aug 2013 #57

I don't believe it. 'Mercuns love to see big 'splshuns BlueStreak Aug 2013 #35

Your comment is highly anti-American and anti-democracy, IMHO. Thanks grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #45

Your concern is noted with all the respect it is due. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #63

Yeah, but when these 'splshits boost up the price of a fill up... Amonester Aug 2013 #53

That is definitely a scenario BlueStreak Aug 2013 #65

I'd go one further... durablend Aug 2013 #94

And Obama and his Wall Street buddies have certainly positioned themselves well Maedhros Aug 2013 #127

Indeed. joshcryer Aug 2013 #54

Compare and contrast the Libyan military defense capabilities with those of Syria Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #93

The sad facts are that once the hammer falls the opposition will dissipate, Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #36

He has already caused irrevocable damage to the party. mick063 Aug 2013 #37

Good for you! another_liberal Aug 2013 #38

And it isn't even to 'punish' anyone for killing people. We kill people every day, we don't care sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #46

Those in elected office will only listen if they begin to fear for their reelection. another_liberal Aug 2013 #48

Absolutely. We are to blame for always going along with the sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #146

Very true. another_liberal Aug 2013 #147

It's a slow motion modern day crusade. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #80

I'll bet it would trigger impeachment too. The Rebuplicans are probably licking their lips. Kablooie Aug 2013 #40

K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #50

Add the price of gas that's going up-swing because of all the m$m raw-raw Amonester Aug 2013 #51

It depends creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #55

In a democracy, I might see how that kind of thing would matter. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #56

It's a price we pay for freedom jsr Aug 2013 #58

what do you expect in country where 91% of the population are a mixture of fringe far leftist and Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #59

as Derrida said... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #60

Derrida made Reagan possible :) - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #70

i see that now. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #99

the 91% fringe Doctor_J Aug 2013 #158

If we lived in a representative democracy... workinclasszero Aug 2013 #61

Finally found a silver lining DaveT Aug 2013 #64

i'm not sure about it either. i figured it would have been done and over by now... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #92

Anti-Obama fervor is at the level of W cheer leading after 9-11 SaveAmerica Aug 2013 #66

being pro-Obama and being pro-war should be separate nashville_brook Aug 2013 #73

Suicide? Nonsense jzodda Aug 2013 #72

Shocked I had to read this far down for this answer. harun Aug 2013 #81

Yes, if. DaveT Aug 2013 #95

Usually agree with you Mr. President, but not on this one. Stay out of Syria! demosincebirth Aug 2013 #76

When a proposed government military action only has 9% Enthusiast Aug 2013 #77

Everyone has seen this movie before, it didn't end well Marrah_G Aug 2013 #85

Screwing the pooch. Little Star Aug 2013 #87

So just to make sure I understand this. Savannahmann Aug 2013 #90

And what exactly is a "punishment bombing?" DirkGently Aug 2013 #96

The whole WMD obsession DaveT Aug 2013 #97

"Pre-emptive self-defense." A Bush-era fallacy. DirkGently Aug 2013 #98

"Tough Leader" PR. See LBJ, Nixon, Reagan, Bushes, for precedents. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #106

Oh, I have to add that one to the list. woo me with science Aug 2013 #100

indeedydoodoo. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #102

So, 91% is the "Peace Purist" fringe? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #104

precisely. know your place Peace Purist! nashville_brook Aug 2013 #110

Better than being a racist Doctor_J Aug 2013 #155

good op ! nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #107

gotta kick this Coyotl Aug 2013 #111

That's a bit hard to say IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2013 #112

empowering to GOP which paints Dems as inept in military intervention. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #116

2014 is too far off for more than minimal impact on elections. Progressive dog Aug 2013 #117

I'm not so sure about that, TBH. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #121

"purity-obsessed factions of the far left" -- wow, really? nashville_brook Aug 2013 #128

Unfortunately, it's true. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #129

No. The "peace / purity obsessed left" is a fiction. DirkGently Aug 2013 #132

Again, there's a difference between opposing intervention, and.....well, you know already. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #133

Oh hardly. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #126

Things WILL go sideways as well. obxhead Aug 2013 #137

Proxy wars are notoriously difficult to control nashville_brook Aug 2013 #160

all 9% are BOG regulars Doctor_J Aug 2013 #152

If he bombs Syria, signs off on TPP, and on KeystoneXL, my party of 50 years will be Doctor_J Aug 2013 #153

K&R. No shortage of Judith Miller... Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2013 #159

thanks! it's weird though, that there's not too many mainstream Judith Millerss... nashville_brook Aug 2013 #165

UK Parliament defeats Syria resolution yay !!!! nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #162

If he doesn't bomb Syria, republicans will scream he's soft on fighting terror. B Calm Aug 2013 #186

Update: 50% support military action limited to air strikes (NBC poll) brooklynite Aug 2013 #189