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moriah

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162. Yay! You addressed his policies!

Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:08 AM

Feb 2012

Too bad you slipped up and let your prejudice continue to taint what would be a great argument against him.

I'll continue to call people who mock our President's race as part of their arguments against him racist -- because they are. I'll continue to call people who mock Chris Christie's weight as part of their arguments against him fatophobes -- because they are. And yes, I LIT into the person who dared to say a very similar joke to yours about our President to me. They thought they were being funny and that since I wasn't black, I wouldn't be offended. They thought they were being cute. They thought they were SO clever. They weren't. I would have lit into a person the same way had they made the same joke about Herman Cain. Because I'm not a hypocrite.

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Some people think that Chris Christie is much too out of shape to effectively hold office... [View all] MrScorpio Feb 2012 OP

Indeed. He is. PDJane Feb 2012 #1

Mentally or physically? ... Or both? Bozita Feb 2012 #2

Fits right in on a Jersey Beach. Historic NY Feb 2012 #3

I would say a good percentage of presidents were fairly rotund. Muskypundit Feb 2012 #4

Taft was up to 400 pounds during his bout of depression after his wife's death. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #44

Stay classy, DU. moriah Feb 2012 #5

He's UNHEALTHY. MADem Feb 2012 #6

And his weight is relevant how? moriah Feb 2012 #7

Read the subject line of the OP. That's how it is "relevant." MADem Feb 2012 #10

But instead of attacking him for his policies, people make fun of his weight. moriah Feb 2012 #12

This is a world where appearance matters. We can say "awww, that's not nice" but it is reality that MADem Feb 2012 #20

But we should try to get away from that treestar Feb 2012 #101

We won't. MADem Feb 2012 #113

One other thing re: anorexia moriah Feb 2012 #14

You are welcome to start a thread and discuss those issues. MADem Feb 2012 #15

Compulsive overeating is an eating disorder, too. moriah Feb 2012 #17

I'd say it's a bit of both. Smoking isn't a "lifestyle choice" either, if you want to get down to MADem Feb 2012 #22

And bashing Christie for being fat is just like bashing Ted Kennedy for being an alcoholic. moriah Feb 2012 #23

Hell, booze wasn't the worst of Teddy's problems! MADem Feb 2012 #27

I find it interesting.... moriah Feb 2012 #30

Bottom line--it's "fine" for any reason. If you don't like it, fight back. MADem Feb 2012 #38

So if he was black it would be fine to make fun of him for that? Because he's a jerk... moriah Feb 2012 #72

Are you actually saying what I think you are saying? MADem Feb 2012 #74

You were the one who said it was fine to make fun of him for whatever reason... moriah Feb 2012 #80

I am finding your racist comments, as well as your false characterizations, very troubling. MADem Feb 2012 #81

And how am I casting blame? moriah Feb 2012 #82

First, you equated obesity with being black. Then, you blamed MADem Feb 2012 #83

I didn't blame. The medications work BETTER on blacks than whites. moriah Feb 2012 #84

I can't continue with this discussion. I have to tell you that I am appalled at MADem Feb 2012 #85

Well, I'll explain why I said it. You said anything was fine to make fun of. moriah Feb 2012 #86

YOU were the one who brought up "making fun" and "bashing"--not me. YOU made those MADem Feb 2012 #92

The point is there are lines. moriah Feb 2012 #100

Well, if black people don't like dealing with racism, all they need to do eridani Feb 2012 #93

I thought a better response would have been .... moriah Feb 2012 #97

OK--I am hearing it the way I thought I was hearing it. MADem Feb 2012 #98

Take the joke about whales and the Jersey Shore from this thread.... moriah Feb 2012 #107

I'm done with you. I don't care for your racist views, even if they are unintentional. nt MADem Feb 2012 #108

Good, because if a person can't see bigotry... moriah Feb 2012 #110

They are the logical equivalent of advice to Christie on this thread eridani Feb 2012 #126

Schizophrenia is a medical condition too jberryhill Feb 2012 #56

If people were making threads to do nothing but poke fun at him for schizophrenia... moriah Feb 2012 #68

Well, what about lack of intelligence, or presence of bigotry jberryhill Feb 2012 #89

So, to you, there is absolutely no difference Union Scribe Feb 2012 #19

Showing the effects of meth, yes, I think may be helpful. (Faces of Meth, anyone?) moriah Feb 2012 #21

I am not talking about "best practices" or "best approaches" here. MADem Feb 2012 #24

Yep. Very true. It's funny, when we see anorexic women who are literally skin and bones CTyankee Feb 2012 #46

Yep, it's less acceptable to make fun of anorexics, though. moriah Feb 2012 #73

Yes, you are right. Anorexia is almost admired by some people who are ignorant about eating CTyankee Feb 2012 #79

I agree, that is beyond stupid treestar Feb 2012 #102

+1 nt Javaman Feb 2012 #50

what's with the statue next to CC ? JI7 Feb 2012 #18

Heh heh! MADem Feb 2012 #25

Taft used a helicopter Politicalboi Feb 2012 #26

if anybody doubts that christie's enormous obesity isn't an expression of serious emotional Gabi Hayes Feb 2012 #28

Those links are ... instructive! MADem Feb 2012 #29

there is a huge number of rightwing cesspools that make free republic Gabi Hayes Feb 2012 #31

Allen WEST??? At least those guys have a sense of humor...n/t renie408 Feb 2012 #36

Taft looks a lot like myself. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #45

He has a bit of a bay window, but he looks like he's got a goodly amount of muscle. MADem Feb 2012 #65

He requires a taxpayer funded golf cart to to travel 100 yards tabbycat31 Feb 2012 #54

I'm disgusted that a jury voted to keep this thread. TheWraith Feb 2012 #8

Oh, that's silly... MrScorpio Feb 2012 #9

So is bigotry, no matter what the criteria. NWHarkness Feb 2012 #52

When paralysis could be mitigated by personal behavior, you might have a point. MADem Feb 2012 #11

Then we all do treestar Feb 2012 #105

That guy is not just "big," though. You are not taking MY point. MADem Feb 2012 #111

Er, so is he fit to serve as governor of NJ? treestar Feb 2012 #118

The argument is, though, that one SHOULD NOT talk about "it." MADem Feb 2012 #122

It is not trying to shut anyone up, just giving an opinion on whether it matters or not treestar Feb 2012 #136

You will have to point me to "protests" about "Gramps" McCain. MADem Feb 2012 #140

I'm fat and I wasn't offended at all. In fact, I laughed my ass off. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #47

To me libtodeath Feb 2012 #53

Maybe Christie can hold an aspirin whith his lips. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #66

That's a good point treestar Feb 2012 #106

And what is interesting - we DID have a paralyzed President treestar Feb 2012 #103

Who should not have served his last term. MADem Feb 2012 #114

The Presidency is a desk job treestar Feb 2012 #116

No it isn't. It's a job that requires movement. Just boarding AF1 at Andrews requires MADem Feb 2012 #123

Climbing up a long flight of stairs to get on AF 1 is not a major point of the job treestar Feb 2012 #137

Yes, it is. A President who cannot travel is an ineffective President. MADem Feb 2012 #141

Fat people can travel treestar Feb 2012 #142

Good for you. Unless you are Chris Christie, your anecdotes are meaningless. MADem Feb 2012 #144

They can certainly adjust a thing like that! treestar Feb 2012 #148

He's not "disabled." He just needs a trainer and a diet. MADem Feb 2012 #150

Query treestar Feb 2012 #143

Wow, way to "out" yourself! Pat yourself on the back! MADem Feb 2012 #145

Why? treestar Feb 2012 #147

Pregnant women, unless they have other unusual health problems--and most do not-- MADem Feb 2012 #152

I hope I live long enough to see the first grossly obese president. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #13

Yeah, I too find the wisest political analysis printed on t-shirts Union Scribe Feb 2012 #16

I think he's too out of shape to RUN for president Sedona Feb 2012 #32

Some people?!??!? Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #33

So it's OK to make funny of Chris Christie for being overweight renie408 Feb 2012 #34

The DU is such a joke on this topic! Making fun of weight is never ok! Logical Feb 2012 #35

I think weight as it regards a candidate's LITERAL 'fitness' for office is a valid renie408 Feb 2012 #40

+1 MADem Feb 2012 #41

And is posting threads to make fun of him for it actually discussing the issues? moriah Feb 2012 #70

Nooo....that's my point. renie408 Feb 2012 #76

sorry -- and check my edit, I wasn't sure if you were stil on ;) moriah Feb 2012 #78

Well, saying he is "round" is not a constructive post. h Logical Feb 2012 #88

It's HARD for gay people to be attracted to someone of the opposite sex eridani Feb 2012 #94

5-1, no less. moriah Feb 2012 #71

The self discipline argument treestar Feb 2012 #104

Wow, what a clever fat joke! Congrats! Logical Feb 2012 #37

Tired. Brickbat Feb 2012 #39

I'm a fat guy and I'm not struggling to breath like Christie is. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #42

My friend told me last year that they have signs on the beach in New Jersey. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #55

My ex-fiance' punched out a kid in the lunch line.... moriah Feb 2012 #115

I'm so impressed. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #124

Neither was I. moriah Feb 2012 #127

It's weird that you are talking about your ex-fiance in this thread. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #129

Actually, my ex was pretty rail-thin at the time. moriah Feb 2012 #130

Let me give you some advice about threatening people here at DU. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #131

Not a threat, more an observation. moriah Feb 2012 #132

Usually they do. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #133

Huh? Bonobo Feb 2012 #139

The fact you think it's acceptable to call a politcian a "beached whale" is a sign of your bigotry. moriah Feb 2012 #146

No, it's not. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #149

I should have known better than to argue with a bigot. moriah Feb 2012 #153

Chris Christie is an anti-gay Republican Romney supporter who is nuts. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #159

I think that it is also reasonable to mention her experience Bonobo Feb 2012 #160

Yay! You addressed his policies! moriah Feb 2012 #162

Of course you'll continue, you're obsessed with Chris Christie. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #163

No, I dislike bigotry in all it's forms, and hypocrisy. moriah Feb 2012 #164

+1 nt MADem Feb 2012 #60

Prediction- elfin Feb 2012 #43

because lack of self-discipline is the only thing that causes obesity? Kali Feb 2012 #58

CC said that's his problem. MADem Feb 2012 #63

And would a person who goes to rehab not be "self-disciplined", or one who takes Antabuse? moriah Feb 2012 #69

I think the Chris Christie bashing has been totally mean. Go, round!! BlueIris Feb 2012 #48

It's a fair object for discussion. He's a likely candidate for a massive heart attack. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #49

Bullshit - please cite the probability of heart attacks for obese people from a reputable source dmallind Feb 2012 #61

Okay... HopeHoops Feb 2012 #95

By this measure, no one (in hindsight) should have voted for FDR. LanternWaste Feb 2012 #67

Most people didn't even know FDR was in a wheelchair. MADem Feb 2012 #77

True but that's not just because the press kept it under wraps onenote Feb 2012 #87

Good? Bad? It was what it was. MADem Feb 2012 #91

I agree on that count to some degree. It is still a valid issue for discussion. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #96

We do have a provision for replacements, though treestar Feb 2012 #119

Fair enough - but he's still an asshole. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #120

The people have a right to know before an election aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2012 #156

Oddly enough, it mattered not at all treestar Feb 2012 #157

Body Size Bigotry NWHarkness Feb 2012 #51

I don't care about his weight, I care about his policies. Jennicut Feb 2012 #57

Which of his duties is he not performing? dmallind Feb 2012 #59

Never mind that. I want to know if he would fit in William Howard Taft's chair yellowcanine Feb 2012 #62

Oh c'mon itudbe a barrel of fun flamingdem Feb 2012 #64

I wish people would just call it what it is. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #75

Pointless button pushing. SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #90

HIDE THREAD is your friend! nt MADem Feb 2012 #99

Fat jokes are okay on DU3 Rex Feb 2012 #109

Apparently racism is still wrong. moriah Feb 2012 #112

What's next? Tyrannosaurus Rex jokes. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #125

Smart move! Rex Feb 2012 #151

Actually I'm thinking of going to Kentucky. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #158

CHristie is a useless bag of skin NO MATTER the size of him,,,,, benld74 Feb 2012 #117

Lots of inaccurate info in this thread. Texasgal Feb 2012 #121

In which way does Christie's weight limit his ability to be governor? Beacool Feb 2012 #128

I find Christie's world view disgusting; greiner3 Feb 2012 #134

He will probably die young because of his condition, so he'd better get cracking... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #135

"Some people" said the same about FDR. Cerridwen Feb 2012 #138

He looks morbidly obese - health certainly is an issue in an election aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2012 #154

he's losing weight like crazy. might by skinny by the convention Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #155

Sadly, if he does, he may not keep it off. moriah Feb 2012 #165

speaking as a sleep technician.... rppper Feb 2012 #161