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In reply to the discussion: President Obama is NOT a tool of the banks/MIC, a liar or a murderous warmonger [View all]
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)148. My excuse for what? I can't try him.
Last edited Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:35 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm just giving my read on it. Repubs are not going to vote to remove him on drone strikes overseas, or violations of the 4th Amendment, or anything legitimate or real. Because, despite the occasional Rand Paul, Republicans aren't offended by those violations, as long as none of it is used against good, gun-owning White people.
Or should we try him for something Republicans would? For Benghazi, for being a closet Muslim and/or communist, or just for Being President While Black? Or for passing and attempting to implement the ACA?
Fact is, neither the Left nor Right is willing to validate the other side's grievances against Obama. Therefore, the odds are slight that there's going to be an Impeachment, and the chance it would be successful is microscopic.
What action do you suggest I'm making an excuse for? I promise, I won't vote for him again, and I also won't commit any more money to his campaign. No matter what slimy, reptilian Republican he's put up against. Hell, I'll even vote for for Rick Perry instead of Obama. Are you happy?
I'm not.
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President Obama is NOT a tool of the banks/MIC, a liar or a murderous warmonger [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
OP
I never came close to discussing the motives of people ascribing motives to the President
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
#17
Not if you want a serious discussion directly related to Syria. As any marriage counselor
pnwmom
Aug 2013
#107
I agree here, z. People have lost a lot of trust due to the actual things that are being
Nay
Aug 2013
#125
It's true that I wish all discussion of a topic would at least begin with discussion of
Nay
Aug 2013
#140
My post wasn't meant to be exhaustive, that's for sure---your points are good additions.
Nay
Aug 2013
#143
The ethics? I'm somehow unethical because I feel the president is not acting in my best interest?
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2013
#38
Should he be impeached? Will you press your congress critter to file for impeachment?
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
#40
No, my congress-critter needs no nudging from me. Sunspots Johnson would like nothing more
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2013
#43
So you passively accept an illegal war by soeone you claim has ill motives.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
#46
No. I don't passively accept. I do what I can, and what I can do is let others know that
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2013
#51
If saying "this isn't the best argument to achieve what you want" is a mark of intolerance
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
#10
Oh yeah...like you're open-minded. So here are the search results for "bankers hate Obama"
BeyondGeography
Aug 2013
#14
I know all about them...there's a much broader range of people saying the banks hate Obama
BeyondGeography
Aug 2013
#62
And there we go with the labels of those we don't agree with. The OP did not call anyone "hater" or
pampango
Aug 2013
#16
Nice post. And a great example of how to be passionate and convincing without name calling.
pampango
Aug 2013
#114
Right on! He has gone against what he promised. The candidate Obama is very different from
Dustlawyer
Aug 2013
#29
I think the more world-weary among us knew soon after 1/20/2009 that something
Doctor_J
Aug 2013
#23
No, he's not a murderous warmonger, but the MIC has a gun directly pointed at his head...
RevStPatrick
Aug 2013
#21
Here's an idea: HE NEVER HAD THE BELIEFS YOU THINK HE HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE. nt
Dreamer Tatum
Aug 2013
#128
More likely the MIC sees profits in it. Cant afford to be world's police and save Social Security.
rhett o rick
Sep 2013
#161
Either bought, or "threatened" just enough (in subtle "ways") to toe the line
Amonester
Aug 2013
#64
"Men are not judged by their words......but by their actions." Frederick II
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2013
#56
Because policies are justified and excused by supposedly superior motives and character.
TheKentuckian
Aug 2013
#134
Anyone who lives on the grid is a tool of the banks and feels the heel when it is applied.
gordianot
Aug 2013
#44
Hi, Larry Summers here, and I agree completely...except war in Syria is ok.
Safetykitten
Aug 2013
#49
I don't think he has some nefarious intent. I think he's blinded by good intentions.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2013
#60
It would be nice if more discussions here followed that same principle.
Proud Liberal Dem
Aug 2013
#108
Bullshit. From failing to prosecute Bush war crimes & banksters, to mandatory crapsurance, attacking
grahamhgreen
Aug 2013
#101
Yes, I'm a Democrat:) hopefully it won't be yet another neo-con tool of the war machine.
grahamhgreen
Aug 2013
#106
No, because his job is to REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, not make crap
grahamhgreen
Aug 2013
#119
But you have been saying the whole time that it doesn't matter what evils are perpetrated
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2013
#122
He's just been pushing for war, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Afghanistan, whatever. And if you
grahamhgreen
Sep 2013
#162