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laundry_queen

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62. I agree also

Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:11 AM

Aug 2013

I'm in Canada and I don't even know anyone who has attended a private school. Everyone in my community - a fairly wealthy one - sends their kids to the local public schools. I don't know of any 'private school' families. And our education system is quite good. I have friends who went to school in the inner city and attend the same university as me and their education levels are on par with the people who went to school in remote small towns and in the rich 'burbs. Collectively, everyone is better off if they send their kids to public schools.

I am seeing the same things you are seeing on this thread - a lot of defensiveness. Everyone is twisting this into: well do my kids not deserve to have the best education?

Guess what?

That poor kid in the inner city deserves it EVERY BIT as much as your kid.

The arguments I'm seeing here remind me of the same arguments used against single payer health care by those who have Cadillac insurance. "I don't want to give up my privilege to better the system for others."

Maybe us Canadians are too commie, but I think we have more of a 'we're in this together' attitude thus our health care and education systems. It's precisely the American attitude of 'me and mine deserve MORE' (THAN YOU are implied) that holds the country back. imvho.

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"If you send your kid to private school, you are a bad person" [View all] philosslayer Aug 2013 OP

Unless you are a rich Dem who says nice things about public schools. You forgot that. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #1

Nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #2

I agree it doesn't make you bad, but it doesn't increase the funding per pupil frazzled Aug 2013 #3

That's true for state funding, but aren't most schools funded through local property taxes? aikoaiko Aug 2013 #5

Only for a portion of the costs. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #8

So the state and federal funding are allocated per pupil. Mariana Aug 2013 #21

I don't know how it's handled locally across the country. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #42

In many instances these days, Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #102

Supporting state funding of private schools *is* morally wrong, I agree. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #105

The problem with that reasoning is set out in the article Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #106

If you willingly undermine your childs education for the good of "society", you're an unfit parent. Xithras Aug 2013 #4

Private schools are not defacto better. Goblinmonger Aug 2013 #26

No one is making that argument. The person you replied to said that SOME public pnwmom Aug 2013 #29

And I'd never claim that they were. Xithras Aug 2013 #35

Yes. A good parent doesn't sacrifice his or her children's well being for the sake of pnwmom Aug 2013 #28

Wonderfully written JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #51

If that makes me bad, then I don't want to be good. aikoaiko Aug 2013 #6

"Don�t just acknowledge your liberal guilt" MicaelS Aug 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #9

Sorry, I don't believe this at all LittleBlue Aug 2013 #10

Well she does write The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #13

Yeah I saw that LittleBlue Aug 2013 #14

No doubt The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #16

So parents have power but Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #17

LOL, guess you are not a big picture type. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #53

So if I buy a book in a bookstore, I don't support public libraries? brooklynite Aug 2013 #11

I pay my full share of taxes and send my kids to private school n2doc Aug 2013 #12

So I'm bad... sarisataka Aug 2013 #15

If I had a say in public schools joeglow3 Aug 2013 #18

Fuck and You telclaven Aug 2013 #19

Isn't it possible Goblinmonger Aug 2013 #27

Not all scholarships are need-based. jeff47 Aug 2013 #32

We chose to send our children to private Catholic school benld74 Aug 2013 #20

My wife is a public school teacher. We homeschool due to her experience with the schools. Probably kelly1mm Aug 2013 #22

So you wife thought she herself was a bad teacher? n-t Logical Aug 2013 #54

No, she things she is a pretty good teachers, when she is actually allowed to teach which is kelly1mm Aug 2013 #64

I imagine learning to different between the general and the specific wasn't taught at your school? LanternWaste Aug 2013 #72

LOL, I bet you are fun at parties. OK Einstein! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #76

Here's what I'm basically reading... philosslayer Aug 2013 #23

Each of my children began in public schools and continued till middle or high school. pnwmom Aug 2013 #33

So you want parents to deliberately harm their children jeff47 Aug 2013 #34

I wonder about my situation FreeJoe Aug 2013 #43

Do you have children? GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #48

Yes, I do philosslayer Aug 2013 #104

So did mine. I couldn't have afforded a private school. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #107

And what happens if we get Single Payer, and you have the chance to opt out? philosslayer Sep 2013 #109

Can you name a Single Payer System that DOESN'T allow supplemental private physicians? brooklynite Sep 2013 #110

And you think thats right? philosslayer Sep 2013 #116

Consider the following scenario... brooklynite Sep 2013 #117

Terrific philosslayer Sep 2013 #119

The rich will always be able to afford things the rest of us can't. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #111

How about we do away with all schooling Carnage251 Aug 2013 #56

I agree also laundry_queen Aug 2013 #62

So how does sending my kids to a shitty school make it better? hack89 Aug 2013 #85

Not my fault you can't figure this one out on your own laundry_queen Aug 2013 #90

So how many years of a substandard education hack89 Aug 2013 #94

That is the problem right there. laundry_queen Aug 2013 #96

My kids come first. Sorry if that bothers you. hack89 Aug 2013 #97

I guess it does bother me laundry_queen Aug 2013 #98

You have a government that serves their people hack89 Aug 2013 #100

Another thing laundry_queen Aug 2013 #93

My kids go to a very good public school hack89 Aug 2013 #95

Not deliberately harming your child to benefit others does not make you a bad person. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #83

+Infinity! A sad display of unabashed class privilege, quite unbecoming HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #114

Bullshit demwing Aug 2013 #24

well stated Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #39

Well, I think you missed the point. But your anger is noted. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #55

How noble of her pintobean Aug 2013 #25

I always find it amusing when Butterbean Aug 2013 #108

My middle and high school experience was "Lord of the Flies." hunter Aug 2013 #30

Thank you for your honesty, Hunter. A good parent who sees problems and has alternatives pnwmom Aug 2013 #36

a very powerful, touching post Supersedeas Aug 2013 #91

So Slate has devolved to Trolldom, eh? Seeking Serenity Aug 2013 #31

My thoughts exactly. (nt) Nine Aug 2013 #87

The writer is someone who thinks getting drunk before basketball games pnwmom Aug 2013 #37

Unless you're a politican, hmmm? n/t Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #38

Her argument (to the extent she's serious) breaks down Seeking Serenity Aug 2013 #40

Well if we did away with all private education ... spin Aug 2013 #41

This isn't always true, but... DemocraticWing Aug 2013 #44

With apologies to the author and the OP... BlueCheese Aug 2013 #45

our politicians are the ones who bailed on public education. Until they are willing to fund our liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #46

My father worked two jobs to send my brother and myself to private school Raine Aug 2013 #47

It was a given LWolf Aug 2013 #49

Care to point out some of this bashing? Carnage251 Aug 2013 #52

Care to read it? LWolf Aug 2013 #81

Or maybe you don't have an argument Carnage251 Aug 2013 #82

I DON'T have an argument. LWolf Aug 2013 #89

If most of our children's education Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #50

Why not just call "Sesame Street" a head start program? Think of all the taxes THAT would save! Squinch Aug 2013 #57

I'm not proposing Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #60

Again. It is clear you haven't met many children. Or working parents. Squinch Aug 2013 #70

If I'm missing something Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #71

Better yet, you go out, spend some time with some children, and run your plan past some of Squinch Aug 2013 #73

I'm assuming it would be a lot like yours Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #74

Probably. Because your suggestion is so far off the mark, they might not want to engage in Squinch Aug 2013 #77

Nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #84

That's alright Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #86

i can understand the idea d_r Aug 2013 #58

Oh no, someone is calling a parent a bad person. 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #59

As a Dem and a parent of 2 kids, I call BS. woodsprite Aug 2013 #61

meds for the good of the general public Supersedeas Aug 2013 #92

The admin who was most adamant about intervention actually had a breakdown woodsprite Aug 2013 #103

Well this certainly pricked the conscience of the conservadems. Good job. K&R Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #63

Out of curiosity, which public school system did your kids go to? brooklynite Aug 2013 #67

Ha! Curiosity, indeed. I know think the "underclasses" are stupid. But rest assured that it is only Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #68

Not my point at all brooklynite Aug 2013 #69

As long as parents support public schools through their taxes hack89 Aug 2013 #78

If by "conservadems" you mean "people who love their children" you are correct geek tragedy Aug 2013 #79

+ Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #115

Quite a few of our resident Gun Enthusiasts, here. Totally unsurprising. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #118

President Obama went to a private school. Jenoch Aug 2013 #65

How many people here own a house or apartment? brooklynite Aug 2013 #66

No they aren't but the option is bad for the many for the benefit of the few. TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #75

This has to be a parody (an RAA argument) by someone what wants to undermine public education Supersedeas Aug 2013 #80

I proudly pay taxes to support my local schools which are good. IdaBriggs Aug 2013 #88

My parents sent me to private school and they are great people. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #99

I love it I fully agree! gopiscrap Aug 2013 #101

What a load of crap. NaturalHigh Sep 2013 #112

That's ridiculous. If I want my child to receive a Jesuit preparatory education then I purchase RB TexLa Sep 2013 #113

As long as it isn't paid for using money made from Wall St or investments I think its great. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #120