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In reply to the discussion: Kerry wants Americans to read the US intel report on Syria for themselves. Here it is [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)23. Yes. "Israeli intelligence 'intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack'"
[link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023548127|Israeli intelligence 'intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack']
Israeli intelligence 'intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack'
Information passed to US by Israeli Defence Forces's 8200 unit, former official tells magazine
Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem
theguardian.com, Wednesday 28 August 2013 09.25 BST
Israeli military intelligence provided key evidence of the Syrian regime's deployment of chemical weapons to US officials last week, according to the German magazine Focus.
The 8200 unit of the Israeli Defence Forces, which specialises in electronic surveillance, intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials regarding the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official said.
The 8200 unit collects and analyses electronic data, including wiretapped telephone calls and emails. It is the largest unit in the IDF.
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Senior Israeli security officials arrived in Washington on Monday to share the latest results of intelligence gathering, and to review the Syrian crisis with national security adviser Susan Rice.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-intercepted-syria-chemical-talk
Information passed to US by Israeli Defence Forces's 8200 unit, former official tells magazine
Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem
theguardian.com, Wednesday 28 August 2013 09.25 BST
Israeli military intelligence provided key evidence of the Syrian regime's deployment of chemical weapons to US officials last week, according to the German magazine Focus.
The 8200 unit of the Israeli Defence Forces, which specialises in electronic surveillance, intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials regarding the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official said.
The 8200 unit collects and analyses electronic data, including wiretapped telephone calls and emails. It is the largest unit in the IDF.
...
Senior Israeli security officials arrived in Washington on Monday to share the latest results of intelligence gathering, and to review the Syrian crisis with national security adviser Susan Rice.
...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-intercepted-syria-chemical-talk
Do you remember the Office of Special Plans for Iraq?
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Not surprisingly, perhaps, it turns out that the same people are responsible for both. According to current and former US intelligence analysts and government officials, the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans funneled information, unchallenged, from Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress (INC) to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, who in turn passed it on to the White House, suggesting that Iraqis would welcome the American invaders. The Office of Special Plans is led by Abram Shulsky, a hawkish neoconservative ideologue who got his start in politics working alongside Elliott Abrams in Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson's office in the 1970s. It was set up in fall 2001 as a two-man shop, but it burgeoned into an eighteen-member nerve center of the Pentagon's effort to distort intelligence about Iraq's WMDs and terrorist connections. A great deal of the bad information produced by Shulsky's office, which found its way into speeches by Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, came from Chalabi's INC. Since the INC itself was sustained by its neocon allies in Washington, including the shadow "Central Command" at the American Enterprise Institute, it stands as perhaps the ultimate example of circular reasoning.
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According to the former official, also feeding information to the Office of Special Plans was a secret, rump unit established last year in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel. This unit, which paralleled Shulsky's--and which has not previously been reported--prepared intelligence reports on Iraq in English (not Hebrew) and forwarded them to the Office of Special Plans. It was created in Sharon's office, not inside Israel's Mossad intelligence service, because the Mossad--which prides itself on extreme professionalism--had views closer to the CIA's, not the Pentagon's, on Iraq. This secretive unit, and not the Mossad, may well have been the source of the forged documents purporting to show that Iraq tried to purchase yellowcake uranium for weapons from Niger in West Africa, according to the former official.
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http://www.thenation.com/article/more-missing-intelligence
Not surprisingly, perhaps, it turns out that the same people are responsible for both. According to current and former US intelligence analysts and government officials, the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans funneled information, unchallenged, from Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress (INC) to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, who in turn passed it on to the White House, suggesting that Iraqis would welcome the American invaders. The Office of Special Plans is led by Abram Shulsky, a hawkish neoconservative ideologue who got his start in politics working alongside Elliott Abrams in Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson's office in the 1970s. It was set up in fall 2001 as a two-man shop, but it burgeoned into an eighteen-member nerve center of the Pentagon's effort to distort intelligence about Iraq's WMDs and terrorist connections. A great deal of the bad information produced by Shulsky's office, which found its way into speeches by Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, came from Chalabi's INC. Since the INC itself was sustained by its neocon allies in Washington, including the shadow "Central Command" at the American Enterprise Institute, it stands as perhaps the ultimate example of circular reasoning.
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According to the former official, also feeding information to the Office of Special Plans was a secret, rump unit established last year in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel. This unit, which paralleled Shulsky's--and which has not previously been reported--prepared intelligence reports on Iraq in English (not Hebrew) and forwarded them to the Office of Special Plans. It was created in Sharon's office, not inside Israel's Mossad intelligence service, because the Mossad--which prides itself on extreme professionalism--had views closer to the CIA's, not the Pentagon's, on Iraq. This secretive unit, and not the Mossad, may well have been the source of the forged documents purporting to show that Iraq tried to purchase yellowcake uranium for weapons from Niger in West Africa, according to the former official.
...
http://www.thenation.com/article/more-missing-intelligence
Iran Syria Policy and Operations Group
The Iran Syria Policy and Operations Group (ISOG) was an interagency organization formed in early 2006 within the U.S. government, consisting of officials from the State Department, White House, Central Intelligence Agency, Treasury Department, and other agencies that worked, to influence regime change in Iran, and to influence its access to world banking and credit institutions. Co-chaired by Elizabeth Cheney, the daughter of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, and Elliot Abrams, the former staffer for Ronald Reagan who was convicted of two felonies in the Iran-Contra scandal, the secretive group met weekly for about a year, also working to a lesser extent on Syria, in order to encourage regime change.[1] Other members of the group's steering committee were James F. Jeffrey, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, who had headed the Iraq Policy group, and Michael Doran, a Middle East specialist from the White House.
Day to day operations were handled by David Denehy, a senior adviser on Near Eastern Affairs at the State Department, and a former official with the International Republican Institute. The group originally was "housed" in the same Pentagon offices that had housed the Office of Special Plans, the group that laid the groundwork for the United States invasion of Iraq.[2] Before the group's dissoluton, Denehy moved his office from the State Department to the office of the Vice-President and continued to manage the group's affairs from there.[3] The group operated for little more than a year, with a beginning budget of $7 million dollars that grew to $80 million. The group drew public scrutiny when leaks from the State Department revealed that, rather than have the program administered by career State Department staffers, or contracted via a bid process, the program was outsourced to BearingPoint, a private corporation specializing in discreet management, whose previous experience included such tasks as overseeing the "emergent" economic development in former USSR countries, and the more recent privatization of gold mines in Khazakstan. ISOG's first BearingPoint staffers had also been hired to man the controversial Iraq Policy and Operations Group. [4] Critics of the outsourcing maneuver cited it as an effort to circumvent the normal diplomatic channels and federal transparency guidelines and laws.[5]
The group had 5 "pillars:"
The Iran Syria Policy and Operations Group (ISOG) was an interagency organization formed in early 2006 within the U.S. government, consisting of officials from the State Department, White House, Central Intelligence Agency, Treasury Department, and other agencies that worked, to influence regime change in Iran, and to influence its access to world banking and credit institutions. Co-chaired by Elizabeth Cheney, the daughter of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, and Elliot Abrams, the former staffer for Ronald Reagan who was convicted of two felonies in the Iran-Contra scandal, the secretive group met weekly for about a year, also working to a lesser extent on Syria, in order to encourage regime change.[1] Other members of the group's steering committee were James F. Jeffrey, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, who had headed the Iraq Policy group, and Michael Doran, a Middle East specialist from the White House.
Day to day operations were handled by David Denehy, a senior adviser on Near Eastern Affairs at the State Department, and a former official with the International Republican Institute. The group originally was "housed" in the same Pentagon offices that had housed the Office of Special Plans, the group that laid the groundwork for the United States invasion of Iraq.[2] Before the group's dissoluton, Denehy moved his office from the State Department to the office of the Vice-President and continued to manage the group's affairs from there.[3] The group operated for little more than a year, with a beginning budget of $7 million dollars that grew to $80 million. The group drew public scrutiny when leaks from the State Department revealed that, rather than have the program administered by career State Department staffers, or contracted via a bid process, the program was outsourced to BearingPoint, a private corporation specializing in discreet management, whose previous experience included such tasks as overseeing the "emergent" economic development in former USSR countries, and the more recent privatization of gold mines in Khazakstan. ISOG's first BearingPoint staffers had also been hired to man the controversial Iraq Policy and Operations Group. [4] Critics of the outsourcing maneuver cited it as an effort to circumvent the normal diplomatic channels and federal transparency guidelines and laws.[5]
The group had 5 "pillars:"
a military group that explored military aid to Oman, Bahrain, and United Arab Emirates and sought to influence the flow of weaponry into Iran.
"democracy outreach" group that provided secret financial assistance to groups inside Syria and Iran in an attempt to promote regime change.
an economic "development" group that sought to control Iran's access to credit, and to international banking services
a "special relationships" group that scrutinized the interactions of Iran with Lebanon, Syria, Afghanistan, and independent terrorist organizations.
a media outreach group that targeted the people of Iran, Syria, and the Persian Gulf region.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Syria_Policy_and_Operations_Group
These criminals just reinvent themselves, new groups, new names, different people in charge but the same bullshit, the same lies, the same methods and the same endgame.
Iran. The grand prize.

You have to look at these things like you look at a 30 year corporate plant the parasitic corporate class is so fond off. Iran was always the grand prize for neocon cold war hawks who think they have to cut Russia off at its knees. Brzezinski, "The Grand Chess Game". They've all been working together for decades on this.
Meanwhile even a 2 year plan to hold on to our social services in the US? Not feasible. Can't afford it. Liars.
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Kerry wants Americans to read the US intel report on Syria for themselves. Here it is [View all]
Catherina
Aug 2013
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Yes. "Israeli intelligence 'intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack'"
Catherina
Aug 2013
#23
Nope, none of it. It may have taken 6 countries of the same lies but people catch on n/t
Catherina
Aug 2013
#7
Yeah lol, like Elliot Engels support to strike now and get *assent* from Congress later
Catherina
Aug 2013
#9
The question will always go back to what positive influence will a military approach accomplish?
Jefferson23
Aug 2013
#8
If it's so obvious, SOS Kerry, why are so many countries withholding support??
reformist2
Aug 2013
#11
And who was the source of that bogus intel? Government leaked "Sounds and whispers" from an ally
Catherina
Aug 2013
#24
Well yeah see but you've been paying attention. They didn't think so many of us were.
Catherina
Aug 2013
#25
Indeed! The "declassified intel" report contains not a shred of evidence to support it.
pinboy3niner
Aug 2013
#28
"I'm asking you Sugar, Would I Lie To You?" It's alright, Baby's not coming back...
Catherina
Aug 2013
#32
oh, right. US intel would never lie. yep, I gonna trust the same apparatus that told
KG
Aug 2013
#27
If you'd like your own personal copy that you can share with your great-grandchildren...
DreamGypsy
Aug 2013
#29
Now it's 1429. This morning it was maybe 300. Exhume all these bodies, lets count them.
The_Casual_Observer
Aug 2013
#31
And we are going to drop hot death metal and explosions on how many more???
dixiegrrrrl
Aug 2013
#34
It called killing for peace. They have to teach this thorn a lesson. Meanwhile
The_Casual_Observer
Aug 2013
#36