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Hissyspit

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67. You don't have to.

Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:33 PM

Aug 2013

(Assuming anything ELSE you said is true, either). You don't have to automatically believe other potential bullshit, either.

"Snowed ones." Yeah, that's useful propagandistic rhetoric. It's not really about the truth for you, is it? Orwell wrote about that. too.

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Glenn Greenwald's Partner Was Carrying A Stunning Amount Of Sensitive Documents When He Was Detained [View all] FarCenter Aug 2013 OP

Good God, these guys are all amateurs. A piece of paper with the decryption password? randome Aug 2013 #1

It is hard to remember "123456" FarCenter Aug 2013 #4

Breaking: Secret video of Greenwald et al discussing their password was released. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #21

Outstanding! Thanks! FarCenter Aug 2013 #25

+1 LOL FSogol Aug 2013 #31

ROFLMAO! omg. Whisp Aug 2013 #32

Gotta change the password on my luggage. nt riqster Aug 2013 #37

that's greenwald's journo "boyfriend", Miranda. Cha Aug 2013 #77

I wonder if you would put a heterosexual life partner in such quotes dsc Aug 2013 #90

Hey dsc.. I put it in quotes to let FarCenter know that Cha Aug 2013 #95

"Snowden journo" is reference to "Greenwald" FarCenter Aug 2013 #96

Sorry! Cha Aug 2013 #108

you know nothing of passwords arely staircase Aug 2013 #87

Had to be bait, or something Whisp Aug 2013 #6

Amateurs. You mean the NSA? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #51

pretty much answers the question as to whether the russians and the chinese got the data nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #99

"a piece of paper with the decryption password" Autumn Aug 2013 #2

I bet the word was Zorra Aug 2013 #56

That made me laugh Autumn Aug 2013 #89

but according to GREENWALD- he was detained solely for being Greenwald's spouse. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #3

...And that he was carrying nothing other than unimportant laptops and gaming consoles.... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #5

So I guess that would mean Andy823 Aug 2013 #7

greenwald lies.. he also said he was detained "without a lawyer".. forgot to mention Cha Aug 2013 #79

My understanding is he refused a lawyer the UK wanted to give him Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #105

But Greenwald/Guardian's FIRST article was he was flatly denied council. Then the 2nd story was- KittyWampus Aug 2013 #106

Perhaps being denied the lawyer you want gave the first headline. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #107

LOL! So now we give credence to the British Keystone cops Segami Aug 2013 #8

apparantly they were smarter than double O Glenn nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #100

R#8 for, but he needed it for his Journalism exam!1 n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #9

The info from the gov't sounds a little odd Hydra Aug 2013 #10

I think they're lying, frankly. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #11

Hummmm I think there is a lie between Greenwald and Snowden gholtron Aug 2013 #29

"Greenwald's lover"... how salacious!! MNBrewer Aug 2013 #33

Be sure to throw in something about mules, too. QC Aug 2013 #64

ahh, yes MNBrewer Aug 2013 #65

of course you do. you have to because the alternative arely staircase Aug 2013 #97

Right... it's the "GSFC" that is humiliated in all this MNBrewer Aug 2013 #101

yeah getting caught at the airport with the names of British agents and over twice the number arely staircase Aug 2013 #102

So Obama controls Britain, too, now? Funny how that vote didn't go the way he wanted. randome Aug 2013 #103

Your grasping at straws is becoming ridiculous MNBrewer Aug 2013 #104

They had no right to detain him in the first place. nt woo me with science Aug 2013 #12

The UK isn't bound by US law. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #13

David Miranda's detention had no basis in law, says former lord chancellor woo me with science Aug 2013 #14

I guess you don't have friends or family that are NSA agents. Whisp Aug 2013 #15

You still pushing this swill? woo me with science Aug 2013 #17

on International flights they ask you if you are carrying anything for someone else. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #22

the shame is gullibles believing in the Russian Spy saying Russia is a leader in human rights. Whisp Aug 2013 #23

The Lord Chancellor didn't know what was revealed today. pnwmom Aug 2013 #27

Then the law should be repealed, since theoretically anyone can be held... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #61

One might think it is bound by UK law, however. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #34

And that law allows airport detention for up to 9 hours.n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #38

Of a journalist's partner. woo me with science Aug 2013 #49

A journalist (or partner) has no immunity from criminal arrest and prosecution FarCenter Aug 2013 #58

The journalist's family should never have been detained in the first place. woo me with science Aug 2013 #92

and under what law was that again? frylock Aug 2013 #59

It's a terrorism statute MNBrewer Aug 2013 #60

Under Schedule 7 they don't have to have a reason. joshcryer Aug 2013 #19

This sounds so boneheaded that one has to hope the police are lying alcibiades_mystery Aug 2013 #16

It could've been a basic mistake. joshcryer Aug 2013 #20

But everyone knows that "delete" doesn't actually delete files FarCenter Aug 2013 #24

Sure, which is how it seems. joshcryer Aug 2013 #26

Greenwald was pretty much a rank amateur, by his own admission. pnwmom Aug 2013 #28

Some people will believe the govt on this but not on assad using chemical weapons The Straight Story Aug 2013 #18

The British government has no credibility. grasswire Aug 2013 #30

Then again Andy823 Aug 2013 #47

Considering this is a home office spokesman arguing before the court hootinholler Aug 2013 #35

from Snowden's statement grasswire Aug 2013 #36

The Ministry of Truth has spoken! Whisp Aug 2013 #39

who amongst these parties has a reputation for lying? grasswire Aug 2013 #41

You forgot Greenwald Andy823 Aug 2013 #44

"let's just say....." "pretty much...." "I think maybe...." grasswire Aug 2013 #72

at least the Brit Gov isn't cracked in the head enough to call Whisp Aug 2013 #45

"The Ministry of Truth" Hissyspit Aug 2013 #50

why would I believe anyone associated with a Russian Spy that says Whisp Aug 2013 #52

You don't have to. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #67

yes, only certain ones here have an inside on special truths. Whisp Aug 2013 #68

Well, given your initial reaction to the OP was complete non-critical acceptance Hissyspit Aug 2013 #69

Some of us tried to tell you that GG and Snow were full of shit Whisp Aug 2013 #70

What the fuck are you talking about? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #71

and your complete, non critical acceptance of everything GG Whisp Aug 2013 #73

What complete non-critical acceptance of everything Glenn Greenwald? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #74

there is a faction here that take every word of GGs as truth. Whisp Aug 2013 #75

Bwahahahahahahah.... 99Forever Aug 2013 #86

LOL! Segami Aug 2013 #53

Why would anyone travel with those kinds of documents? ananda Aug 2013 #40

Exactly! WHY would anyone travel with such documents Segami Aug 2013 #42

NSA was searching the clouds that week. grasswire Aug 2013 #43

Surely it depends on how much memory it takes up? CJCRANE Aug 2013 #81

This rises above any credibility nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #46

an anonymous government official says something bad about Greenwald! Enrique Aug 2013 #48

and Greenwald always says something good about Whisp Aug 2013 #54

I don't get it... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #66

Greenwald is his own worst enemy.. Maybe if he stopped lying all the time. Cha Aug 2013 #80

+++ now that's the GG we know. Liar. Whisp Aug 2013 #82

I know, huh? It's really unreal. Cha Aug 2013 #83

The anti-journalism propaganda has no credibility anymore. woo me with science Aug 2013 #55

Greenwald says they are bs'ing you. dkf Aug 2013 #57

Greenwald is pissed he won't be getting those docs Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #62

He has thousands already. Beats me what extra Poitras would have had. dkf Aug 2013 #63

Oh, no. No one after Snowden would ever *lie* to us. woo me with science Aug 2013 #93

"One file contains names & locations of agents." Cha Aug 2013 #76

BAHAHAHHHAHA!! Notice how people hold to their "beliefs" despite evidence Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #78

well donchoo know that Whisp Aug 2013 #84

I would think more than a few people Cha Aug 2013 #85

Those people and their family and friends Whisp Aug 2013 #88

What a Surprise. WeekendWarrior Aug 2013 #91

His purpose IS to damage national security, ours and the UK's. DevonRex Aug 2013 #94

I don't think these were Snowden's documents. randome Aug 2013 #98