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67. I'll give some examples of age, race and gender

Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:31 PM

Aug 2013

These all came out of the discussion and proved to be challenging.

RACE

Chinese Restaurant. You have applicants who are not Asian, but are qualified. However, you want to project "authenticity" so you feel inclined to staff visible personal based on whether or not people could see them as Chinese. So is it okay to hire exclusively Koreans, Thais, Japanese, Chinese, etc? Knowing you may lose business to another place that has at least the illusion of being authentic.

GENDER

A Rape Crisis Hotline. I had a few women admit that they would feel much more comfortable talking to a woman as a first contact. Some strongly so. So knowing this, do you hire a qualified man if women are available, knowing you might be turning away people from getting help?

AGE

Let's say a clothing store dealing in current fashion for teens. Knowing that a customer might not want "Grandpa's" opinion on current trends, no matter how into youth culture he might be, do you hire him or the college student?

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When Is It Appropriate And Not Appropriate To Hire Someone Based On Physical Appearance? [View all] LearningCurve Aug 2013 OP

depends on the job i suppose. loli phabay Aug 2013 #1

It makes a difference, that's for sure. David__77 Aug 2013 #2

yup it all depends on what your hiring for, would you hire a morbidly obese personal trainer loli phabay Aug 2013 #3

I've pondered this question a LOT. David__77 Aug 2013 #4

Mexican ads also often look for personas "de buena presentación" a la izquierda Aug 2013 #8

Their TV Networks / Film Studios Seem to Use That Criteria. HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #19

In Brazil too BainsBane Aug 2013 #39

I imagine in Veracruz... a la izquierda Aug 2013 #41

The only thing that would change this is to conduct interviews without ever seeing the person. randome Aug 2013 #17

Personally, I would never have that interview LearningCurve Aug 2013 #24

Like orchestras finally had to do, having the musician play behind a curtain so the SharonAnn Aug 2013 #32

I agree with that. It works for that job, maybe not for Hooters. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #64

Some jobs are categorized as entertainment Nevernose Aug 2013 #69

I always remember gvstn Aug 2013 #13

This was one example that came up LearningCurve Aug 2013 #20

Like an airline hostess? Auntie Bush Aug 2013 #38

all good examples loli phabay Aug 2013 #83

Stand in for Conan the Barbarian. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #5

When it affects the job... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #6

I tip waiters the same treestar Aug 2013 #15

On a conscious level... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #27

I barely notice that at all treestar Aug 2013 #43

Your angelic nature aside... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #45

I really don't think so treestar Aug 2013 #50

You are obviously missing the point... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #80

But if your waitress touches you on the shoulder and... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #55

That would have to be a he, and then I'd be pretty mad treestar Aug 2013 #71

Physical appearance and prettiness/handsomeness are not the same. n/t patricia92243 Aug 2013 #7

I agree titaniumsalute Aug 2013 #10

Obviously in the acting and modeling industries scheming daemons Aug 2013 #9

Would tattoos fall under appearance? NightWatcher Aug 2013 #11

I recently read 'help wanted ad' from a shop I used constantly, it said 'no tattoos no piercings' Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #12

It's prejudicial Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #53

I dislike facial, neck or full arm tattoos. Just don't like them. Looks tacky to me. It is not.... Logical Aug 2013 #57

That's where I draw the line Link Speed Aug 2013 #75

depends i suppose on the level of tattoos and piercings etc loli phabay Aug 2013 #16

Only actors treestar Aug 2013 #14

What about salespeople? LearningCurve Aug 2013 #28

I don't think there are many guys who are creepy like that, and if they are, that they want to be treestar Aug 2013 #42

I took a class last year that covered this topic. Hooters came up and the lawsuit against them Township75 Aug 2013 #18

This one came up too LearningCurve Aug 2013 #25

Question brings to mind the woman who had her boyfriend tattoo her whole face- I could see some KittyWampus Aug 2013 #21

From a worker's standpoint, looking good is essential. closeupready Aug 2013 #22

I work construction, and can say I have seen every kind of guy (and some women) with tats, panader0 Aug 2013 #23

Makes sense. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #62

If your business is based on a certain physical appearance Marrah_G Aug 2013 #26

What about a grey area, like bartending? LearningCurve Aug 2013 #29

That's a tough one Marrah_G Aug 2013 #33

I think most people are torn on this LearningCurve Aug 2013 #34

Appearance JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #30

Appearance indeed differs from looks LearningCurve Aug 2013 #31

Prior to moving to the JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #35

Last company I worked for madville Aug 2013 #36

The non-profit where I worked madamesilverspurs Aug 2013 #37

Hiring should be done by lottery only...... CK_John Aug 2013 #40

Not sure if serious... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #46

Very serious. CK_John Aug 2013 #47

Damn, I hope your neurosurgeon has at least one semester of pre-med before he hits the lottery! 11 Bravo Aug 2013 #48

Great response... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #59

Of course to get into the lottery you must have the minimum bonfides. CK_John Aug 2013 #77

Why not the best? Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #79

You never get the best, just some bigot's perception of the best. An example Some CK_John Aug 2013 #81

Ummm... What? Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #82

If you are working with others in an office environment Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #44

sent home for wrinkles? Enrique Aug 2013 #58

But where do you draw the line? wickerwoman Aug 2013 #68

Only thing that should make a difference Spirochete Aug 2013 #49

Appropriate in the arts. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #51

This is one of those topics that is likely to suffer greatly from 'social desirability bias'. PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #52

If you are an actor hired to play a part, I suppose Cleita Aug 2013 #54

Physical appearance as in general attractiveness or what they Rex Aug 2013 #56

I'll give a few examples LearningCurve Aug 2013 #65

Thanks! Rex Aug 2013 #66

I'll give some examples of age, race and gender LearningCurve Aug 2013 #67

Wow, okay you do have some tough examples. Rex Aug 2013 #72

I'm still thinking about them LearningCurve Aug 2013 #74

one factor is whether the reasons are good Enrique Aug 2013 #60

Stripper, porn star, actor LittleBlue Aug 2013 #61

Our company will not hire sales reps with visible tattoos. I agree. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #63

Bald models at a hair products convention? Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #70

There's a "bald guyz" shampoo treestar Aug 2013 #73

It is Appropriate To Hire Someone Based On Physical Appearance when that appearance would Vincardog Aug 2013 #76

I kind of fall somewhere in this area LearningCurve Aug 2013 #78

Only when you're hiring someone *for their face* Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #84