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BainsBane

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31. You falsely accuse me of misleading while you blatantly distort the NRR piece
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:06 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:26 AM - Edit history (1)

This is the expert's assessment: "

(A rebel attack)is feasible, but not particularly likely," said Winfield."
The rest of the piece is entirely hypothetical. NO WHERE does it say the rebels likely released the gas. It says the exact opposite of that.

You oppose the war, so you have tried to twist the evidence to support your predetermined view that intervention isn't necessary. You accused me of a misleading subject line, which wasn't the case even based on your misreading of the article. You are obviously creating a scenario that fits how you want to see the situation. The facts are not so simple. Evidence shows that the Syrian airforce very likely released those chemicals. Who else maintains a force of fighter jets? Why would rebels risk, and ultimately pay with, their lives collecting video evidence if they had just dropped weapons? This is not a Hollywood movie with clear good and bad guys. Assad is and always has been a ruthless dictator willing to do anything to hold on to power. He doesn't wear a white hat and ride off in the sunset with the pretty woman. This is an ugly situation all the way around. Civilians are being gassed and the ability of the US to stop that is meager at best. You can oppose the war, but that means you have to face the reality that children will continue to be killed. Of course, that would likely be the case with extended US intervention anyway. War, whether foreign intervention or civil war, is ugly, and particularly so in Syria.

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because they were dropped from planes and the rebels do not have planes???/ VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #1
Then why are reports it from rockets? HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #3
can you show me that? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #6
Actually... Tx4obama Aug 2013 #11
They were NOT dropped from planes. Xithras Aug 2013 #24
How do we know that it was neither the rebels nor the regime? n/t mia Aug 2013 #2
The rebels who released the video have been killed, for starters BainsBane Aug 2013 #4
Your post seems misleading to me. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #12
No, it is not misleading BainsBane Aug 2013 #17
"Killed" usually means somebody took an action to kill them BlueStreak Aug 2013 #23
by chemical weapons BainsBane Aug 2013 #33
What did I say that distorted the NPR article? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #35
If the NPR article is correct, then it most likely WAS the rebels BlueStreak Aug 2013 #5
say what???? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #8
What is your evidence for that claim? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #13
Here's one...a map of where the chemicals were ... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #22
What is the evidence of your claim that the chemicals were dropped from planes? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #25
Surviving witnessess: Rockets, 5am. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #14
Sky News? It's the equivalent of FOX. It's pathetic you'd offer that as a source. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #28
They're quoting named witnesses. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #29
NPR article said it MAY HAVE been the rebels. It was speculation. pnwmom Aug 2013 #20
That was also reported on NPR this afternoon -- broadcast BlueStreak Aug 2013 #27
Thanks. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #38
You falsely accuse me of misleading while you blatantly distort the NRR piece BainsBane Aug 2013 #31
Do we know that they have access to chemical weapons? Renew Deal Aug 2013 #7
no but we KNOW Assad does AND has an VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #9
According to Turkish security forces, yes. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #15
There is no question that the rebels have them. Xithras Aug 2013 #37
Who manufactured and sold the chemicals? Who are the arms dealers? n/t mia Aug 2013 #10
Everyone. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #19
Because... Trust Us MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #16
as usual, you have no real contribution to pertinent information. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #32
OK, if the answer is other than "trust us"... MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #34
The Ministry of Truth tells no lies. jsr Aug 2013 #36
Ability, access and coordination, for starters. Barack_America Aug 2013 #18
We can't be 100% sure. But it is possible pnwmom Aug 2013 #21
Have heard, from administration, there's 'intel' about regime members planning, elleng Aug 2013 #26
Because rebels don't have the amount of chemicals used to kill a THOUSAND civilians KittyWampus Aug 2013 #30
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