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HughBeaumont

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310. Christ, who let the Heritage/Cato stooges in?

Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:18 AM

Aug 2013

Fucking ridiculous. Get them the hell off of our board.

Minimum wage has gone down in value and in buying power . . .

. . . we're seriously lagging behind other countries on this issue . . .

. . . real wages have flatlined since 1979 . . . .

. . . while CEOs made out like bandits and continue to raze this country to death . . .

. . . and the "differing point of view" we're now supposed to accept and embrace is fetid rhetoric from a bad Stephen Moore book? We're now the site that promotes "bootstrapper" bullshit?

How about this . . . please stop worrying about what a fast-food worker should or shouldn't be making and maybe . . . just MAYBE . . . . . ask YOURSELF why you aren't making more also. ALL of us should be getting paid better. It's disgusting that degreed professionals only make 12 to 14 dollars an hour.

But maybe the fast food workers just might DESERVE that 12 to 14 an hour, because they seem to be the only ones standing up and saying anything about their ridiculously low pay. It's not like any of our comfy asses are million-person-marching to DC or conducting sit-ins in corporate boardrooms like we SHOULD be doing.

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Fast-Food Strikes Expand Across U.S. to 50 Cities [View all] xchrom Aug 2013 OP

k/r marmar Aug 2013 #1

Now, this is the kind of strike I can support Cal Carpenter Aug 2013 #2

+1. I also love it, because Repugs are in overdrive attacking workers - they can't help themselves! reformist2 Aug 2013 #105

I'm lovin' it!* Auggie Aug 2013 #162

3rd strike day yeoman6987 Sep 2013 #354

Real progressive... Agschmid Jun 2015 #355

K & R and SOLIDARITY! bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #3

Proud union member here Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #4

K&R PETRUS Aug 2013 #5

This is long overdue Pakid Aug 2013 #6

As a former Burger King employee who started at $2.30 per hour, I say Rock on! corkhead Aug 2013 #7

Prediction: This is not going to work. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #8

i think if it goes to fifteen bucks they will price themselves out of a job loli phabay Aug 2013 #10

Pretty sure that is the republican position also. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #17

or people who know that why would someone work for twelve bucks when they can move jobs loli phabay Aug 2013 #33

So no one at the bottom should ever get a raise Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #39

no, but the reality is that if tbe wage goes to fifteen dollars then more skilled people will take loli phabay Aug 2013 #44

Oh I see, you are really concerned about the workers. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #49

nope, you seem to be intentionally missing the point, so i am done loli phabay Aug 2013 #50

you are done with DU? CreekDog Aug 2013 #274

no just the obtuse, plamph loli phabay Aug 2013 #314

Minot ND McD's is offering $300 sign-on bonus, $15hr leftstreet Aug 2013 #52

probuably cause they cant get employees due to the oil business paying so well loli phabay Aug 2013 #54

So what does that tell you? leftstreet Aug 2013 #55

that they cant get anyone to work mcdonalds in minot, whereas in other markets loli phabay Aug 2013 #58

So it's not true 'skilled' took 'unskilled' jobs? leftstreet Aug 2013 #60

in minot it seems everyone with any skills is also emlpoyed in the oil industry and support loli phabay Aug 2013 #62

You're on the right track leftstreet Aug 2013 #64

i dont disagree with you at all, i just dont see the end result being that loli phabay Aug 2013 #70

Others do, so let them organize leftstreet Aug 2013 #72

And another thing tazkcmo Aug 2013 #249

I'm from Missouri tazkcmo Aug 2013 #248

ND is experiencing a labor shortage due to its oil boom. Flatulo Aug 2013 #243

Abundance of jobs n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #254

And why is that? Flatulo Aug 2013 #258

Minot is in ND. uppityperson Aug 2013 #73

LOL you're right leftstreet Aug 2013 #76

Except if the wages of McD and other workers go up Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #121

The reality is quakerboy Aug 2013 #241

After a while low skill workers gain experience and skills. Maybe get promoted to shift manager. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #209

And you say this like it's a bad thing? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #74

he always takes the Republican position CreekDog Aug 2013 #273

Boom! Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #284

And this is why jobs at the bottom end of the scale need to go up. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #66

+1 n/t Laelth Aug 2013 #69

Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2013 #91

I think you may be missing the point emsimon33 Aug 2013 #161

Skill level homegirl Aug 2013 #176

This will help get the Federal minimum wage raised to at the least $9, as O has proposed forever Sunlei Aug 2013 #11

+1 PotatoChip Aug 2013 #29

Probably not; McDonald's CAN say no. End of story. closeupready Aug 2013 #30

They will say no LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #154

Weren't those the same arguments used during the '30s? Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #198

Selfishness and Greed athena Aug 2013 #51

There's no such thing as low-skill labor, and the notion that skill has anything to do Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #102

thank you noiretextatique Aug 2013 #123

Too many of us have gone well and truly insane. They're completely invested in perpetuating Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #193

Exactly! nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #207

All work is most certainly no equal, and the value placed on it depends on the skills required, as Flatulo Aug 2013 #215

Burger flippers tazkcmo Sep 2013 #336

I worked fast food too, while I was going to college so that I wouldn't have to work in fast food. Flatulo Sep 2013 #350

I made a good tazkcmo Sep 2013 #351

I don't begrudge anyone the highest wage they can get. I *did* work in fast food, and it's Flatulo Sep 2013 #352

At $15/hour, you're talking $31,200 per year - assuming you can get full time hours . . . hatrack Sep 2013 #353

You can't possibly compare skill needed to clean a toilet to the skill needed to operate on a brain. Flatulo Aug 2013 #213

Yes, you can. But reading through your replies on this thread, it is pretty clear that writing out Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #253

I've already read Marx. Wasn't impressed. Flatulo Aug 2013 #257

You don't even know what anyone else is talking about, but here you are, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #265

Can you be more specific? Flatulo Aug 2013 #278

Demand can be manipulated Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #301

And what does that have to do with it? tazkcmo Sep 2013 #337

I was responding to a post that claimed that the connection between skill level and wage Flatulo Sep 2013 #349

Rubbish Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #250

Ooh, $30 an hour... Well excuse my impertinence Mr. Buffett. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #255

Prolly Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #260

Forget it. The poster you're addressing is a Marxist. Flatulo Aug 2013 #263

Flat wrong on every count. Do you have any more Reich-Wing talking points you want to Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #269

I apologize if I've mis-characterized your position on the political spectrum. From your several Flatulo Aug 2013 #279

What's with the red-baiting? Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #302

Dude, it is not "nifty" and I'm glad that you are not bearing me any ill will. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #266

But the skill does matter Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #275

Of course there is low skill labor.... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #251

Nobody's making that argument. And "low-skilled" is either code or ignorance, depending on the Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #256

Welcome to MU - Marxist Underground Flatulo Aug 2013 #261

Did someone post that? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #262

This set likes to argue the points they wish somebody made. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #267

Bazinga! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #270

These are the posts I was referring to... Flatulo Aug 2013 #285

Sorry I read the entire thread HangOnKids Aug 2013 #291

Can you be more specific? Flatulo Aug 2013 #292

This claim HangOnKids Aug 2013 #293

I said it. It's my take on one poster's disdain for people whom I consider to be deserved Flatulo Aug 2013 #294

I put the quotes around the statement to show it was yours HangOnKids Aug 2013 #295

You have a lovely evening too. Flatulo Aug 2013 #296

Nonsense. Talk about erecting strawmen. If you go through my posts carefully, Flatulo Aug 2013 #286

The arguments have been made thousands of times by hundreds of people. If you're unaware of them, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #321

Thanks for the detailed, thoughtful response. I appreciate the time it takes to do this, because Flatulo Aug 2013 #323

Are you arguing for wage equality, or just a living wage? You scold and scold, but really don't Flatulo Aug 2013 #280

As a well experienced and licenced truck and auto mechanic, my last job paid $14.50 per hour. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #108

republicans are in general agreement with your opinions expressed here. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #141

"Warren Stupidity" ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #160

But he's not often wrong...... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #169

Hmmm, might I suggest... sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #189

This message was self-deleted by its author sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #190

Very tidy Republican talking points. Ontario? If you say so Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #259

So, because you are willing to trade your life for a tiny fraction of what it's worth, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #325

It's all about negotiation, people. They ask for $15/hour and are hopeful TheDebbieDee Aug 2013 #159

It's really not that high. Gore1FL Aug 2013 #195

I'm so tired of hearing it's not going to work. Did Hoffa say that when he first led the Teamsters? liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #235

Not sure if Hoffa is a good example. He ended up murdered by the gangsters. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #300

K&R NealK Aug 2013 #9

Cooking at home until Iliyah Aug 2013 #12

Un-skilled labor is not worth $15 an hour for most markets. Soundman Aug 2013 #13

Fast food is one of the more dangerous jobs in the country KurtNYC Aug 2013 #19

No job should pay a substandard wage leftstreet Aug 2013 #53

Obscene is what CEO's in this country make HangOnKids Aug 2013 #86

Nice post Neil Cavuto. Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #125

How about $9? $10? $11? progressoid Aug 2013 #135

There's no such thing as unskilled labor. And yes, you sound like you're getting old. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #194

So the list of restaurants impacted include JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #14

Chipotle is no longer a McDonald's company. They tried it and it didn't work for them mountain grammy Aug 2013 #20

ITA JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #25

You summed it up! These Cos. are using gov. relief as wage-support! Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #199

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #15

So you plan to cross a picket line to patronize McDs? Or do you HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #22

So you're going to be a scab just because you want a Big Mac? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #71

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #78

You will not support decent wages, instead will be a scab for a fish sandwich? WHY are you on DU? uppityperson Aug 2013 #80

My question exactly. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #82

Search shows very mixed reviews. At least he is being straightforward about being a scab for a taste uppityperson Aug 2013 #83

There are some ringers on the jury, methinks... backscatter712 Aug 2013 #93

and whoops! there goes the zombie uppityperson Aug 2013 #95

I did. Hopefully MIRT will be issuing a pizza... Never mind, they just did! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #96

+++++++ uppityperson Aug 2013 #98

Did he get pepperoni and sausage on his Tombstone? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #99

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #90

You do not support living wages. Your need for a taste treat outweighs others need for housing/food. uppityperson Aug 2013 #94

How is making enough money to be able to eat and put a roof over your head outrageous? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #81

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #87

It isn't HangOnKids Aug 2013 #88

Be a scab for a burger? On the positive side, you've only been on 1 jury here.eom uppityperson Aug 2013 #75

Your heart will thank you for eating elsewhere The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #24

I am nothing if not the sum of my contradictions. Seriously, though, one HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #27

Sure, just saying I got a laugh out of it The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #59

Once you pointed it out, I got a good laugh at my own HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #79

Yeah, I get what you are saying. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #28

Me too! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #89

K&R..Support Tippy Aug 2013 #16

For $15/hour, they could hire better workers. FarCenter Aug 2013 #18

$15 per hr for entry level, unskilled labor? GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #23

Your post only exposes the larger problem leftstreet Aug 2013 #35

My first thought too. (nt) PotatoChip Aug 2013 #45

Yep, they sure should. If CEOs get gigantic raises for sitting in a board room, juajen Aug 2013 #47

If McD's CEO's pay were spread out over all the employees... GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #56

So you don't want the employees to receive a raise? Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #103

Lots of folks around here think that the CEO's pay would be enough... GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #230

"unskilled" is a lie Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #61

I worked fast food in 1972. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #63

And in real dollars you made $14.00/hour nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #172

If that's true, then we should certainly index it for inflation. Flatulo Aug 2013 #214

That is true nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #216

Thanks, hadn't seen that. Flatulo Aug 2013 #217

Why the owner is the one who is unskilled Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #205

That is a rather silly statement. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #228

That's classic Marxist dogma, and demonstrably untrue. Most businesses start out as Flatulo Aug 2013 #233

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #107

They should all get $15 an hour. That's only $600 a week, you know (before taxes). reformist2 Aug 2013 #104

No, being forced to work in a job is slavery. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #109

Actually, wage slavery is real. We shouldn't be afraid to call it a form of slavery. reformist2 Aug 2013 #110

Er, calling working for pay slavery is a real kick in the nuts Flatulo Aug 2013 #264

Getting a less than living wage is slavery Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #303

Not sure if serious.... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #252

Another voice in the republican labor chorus. nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #142

So anyone who has a different point of view is a Republican? LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #153

No, people expressing a rightwing point of view are in agreement with the republican view. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #164

Is it right wing to predict the strike won't work? LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #271

Maybe not... Spirochete Aug 2013 #288

No it is rightwing to refer to people as "burger flippers" who don't deserve a living wage. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #289

Yes, because you should be demanding 30 nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #171

There is no such thing as unskilled labor. The fact that our government's unwavering support Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #196

Have to disagree. ALL those jobs pay sub-standard wages... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #202

Looks like the republicans are not liking this one at all. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #26

Should be surprising - some of the replies. xchrom Aug 2013 #32

It sure isn't surprising. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #34

+1 xchrom Aug 2013 #37

I knew before opening the thread that it would be a RW talking point roll-call of sorts - bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #65

And the funny thing is that the true cost per meal for paying decent wages to fast food workers... backscatter712 Aug 2013 #77

Sixty eight...to be exact nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #201

So many here just don't understand that raising wages is the start to raising all wages. canoeist52 Aug 2013 #31

Yes and the $15 an hour proposal is absolutely not Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #36

It's a decent starting point for negotiations. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2013 #97

+1 That is exactly what I was thinking. ChaoticTrilby Aug 2013 #245

Exactly. It's good for business too. People will be able to afford to buy stuff. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #40

Bullshit. Ford paid what he did because he had to pay it to get the level of labor he needed. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #68

I know Republicans hate the concept, but raising wages floats all boats. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #111

Ford decided the labor he was getting was not cost efficient delete_bush Aug 2013 #158

How does that not compare to today? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #208

High turnover may or may not be a problem... delete_bush Aug 2013 #242

Setting a wage floor is not the same as being "an arbiter of wages" SunSeeker Aug 2013 #276

Business model that pays slave wages? delete_bush Aug 2013 #305

$7/hour is slave wages. It is immoral. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #307

No link? Fair enough. delete_bush Aug 2013 #311

LOL. I wouldn't pay $150,000 for that "opportunity." SunSeeker Aug 2013 #312

I wouldn’t pay it either, delete_bush Aug 2013 #322

No, it won't be catastrophic. It will put us where we were in the late 1960s in today's dollars. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #324

The discussion is about the raising the FEDERAL minimum wage to $15 delete_bush Aug 2013 #326

The federal min. wage should be raised to $15, like it was in the 1960s in real dollars. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #327

It's been an interesting discussion, delete_bush Sep 2013 #330

We keep manufacturing jobs here by stopping the tax incentives for outsourcing. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #331

You seem to not address the $60K teenagers beyond delete_bush Sep 2013 #332

Every full time worker deserves a wage they can live on with dignity. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #333

Paul Krugman, from February of this year... delete_bush Sep 2013 #334

Please provide the link to that Krugman quote. It cuts him off in the middle of a thought. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #341

$15 in the 1960's is incorrect delete_bush Sep 2013 #335

My error. The minimum wage should be $21.72 today. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #338

By all means, Jack & Jill, delete_bush Sep 2013 #340

Wow. People having a decent life really angers you. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #343

Naw, but I am amused delete_bush Sep 2013 #344

I'm proposing $15/hour. That is not nonsense. That is a living wage. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #345

OK. delete_bush Sep 2013 #347

There has to be a NATIONAL minimum wage. Otherwise, there is not a level playing field. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #348

Actually you are so wrong it is not even funny nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #173

Hear,hear!!!!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Aug 2013 #46

It worked quite well in Brazil. Pommie Dinko Cirtbag Aug 2013 #200

Think Outside Minimum Wage leftstreet Aug 2013 #38

This should get interesting! Phentex Aug 2013 #41

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #42

I don't see anything CHEAP about sorefeet Aug 2013 #43

Kic and Rec for the so called Democrats up in arms Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #48

k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #57

k&r for labor. n/t Laelth Aug 2013 #67

Digging deeper polynomial Aug 2013 #84

Great! Today's the day I get a craving for TacoHell NightWatcher Aug 2013 #85

YES! Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #92

Solidarity Forever malaise Aug 2013 #100

There's no shortage of unskilled workers. Flatulo Aug 2013 #101

The objective is to create a shortage. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #106

I understand, and in normal times, it's a sound strategy. But we're in a depression, where Flatulo Aug 2013 #118

"But we're in a depression" ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #132

Technically, no. And if you're not un- or under-employed, I'm happy for you. Flatulo Aug 2013 #137

Those "millions of jobs going over seas" is why low-paid jobs are now in the limelight.... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #206

Understood. The difference, and I don't think it's a trivial one, is that the factory jobs Flatulo Aug 2013 #212

Jobs lost because companies wanted to increase profits by paying workers slave wages Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #211

I think you're underestimating that effect that efficiency has had on job destruction. Flatulo Aug 2013 #226

Totally agree Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #272

In one of my last jobs (I'm retired now) we had a 5-axis Haas machining center and one guy Flatulo Aug 2013 #277

I'm in repair Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #281

Sounds like its all good then, well done. Flatulo Aug 2013 #282

Your sentiment seems to find 'good' company in this thread. Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #113

Just being realistic. There's no way that zero skill labor is going to earn $15 when college Flatulo Aug 2013 #117

Oh yes. If you work - you should be paid a living wage. Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #122

Without some income disparity, how do you incentivize people to do the hard jobs? Flatulo Aug 2013 #150

LOL! Dude you're not seriously worried about a LACK xchrom Aug 2013 #156

You're being deliberately obtuse. Flatulo Aug 2013 #175

You need to read some John Maynard Keynes and the theory of money nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #231

That's not my beef. The poster I was replying to was suggesting that workers with higher Flatulo Aug 2013 #232

Right now there are disensentives nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #234

My son is in the same boat - $200,000 in education (thankfully paid in full by Dad) and Flatulo Aug 2013 #236

Because then the paralegal will start at $20 after a short period of adjustment nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #238

I agree that the downward wage pressure started with Reagan. I haven't read Keynes, but I do Flatulo Aug 2013 #239

Like it always has nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #240

Why are college grads only making $10 an hour? leftstreet Aug 2013 #126

Because they're being forced to take shitty fast food jobs. Flatulo Aug 2013 #151

If fast food paid $15 an hr would it still be shitty? leftstreet Aug 2013 #183

It would depend on the major and market demands Flatulo Aug 2013 #187

Another voice in the republican labor chorus. nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #143

Instead of a completely content-less drive-by insult, how about you identify where I'm wrong Flatulo Aug 2013 #152

I know, right? Perhaps we should lower the minimum wage. Nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #163

Why not raise it to $100? Flatulo Aug 2013 #166

Why not set it to a livable wage? Oh wait, then you would be supporting the strike. N. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #168

That's a highly variable figure dependent on geography. Flatulo Aug 2013 #178

And yet we have a national minimum wage. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #182

I can support indexing the minimum wage to inflation. If that's $15, fine with me. Flatulo Aug 2013 #223

15$ an hour for flipping burgers? muse03 Aug 2013 #112

Oh bullshit. If you work you should be paid xchrom Aug 2013 #114

Sorry I just can't bring myself to support this whole thing. muse03 Aug 2013 #115

That was a valid philosophy prior to the Reagan years. It worked for me. I worked hard, Flatulo Aug 2013 #119

So you feel that the social contract has been broken? Yet..... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #177

Where to begin... Flatulo Aug 2013 #210

when a worker doesn't make enough to do things like feed themselves -- you as a tax payer xchrom Aug 2013 #136

Who is handing out happiness? You imagine the workers are not worth the increase? Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #138

Bye forever! nt valerief Aug 2013 #145

And another RW neo-liberal RW talking point heard........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #174

Please check this you reaganite you nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #203

Oh the bootstrap crowd is in here chirping away HangOnKids Aug 2013 #116

What are you making? leftstreet Aug 2013 #124

Join the Army? ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #129

It's not just flipping burgers. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #139

$15 is reasonable. In fact in a lot of areas you would be hard pressed to totodeinhere Aug 2013 #188

Oh, for the love of all that's pure... ChaoticTrilby Aug 2013 #246

This is one of the most important single issues in the U.S. today! DrewFlorida Aug 2013 #120

DU Rec. Joe Shlabotnik Aug 2013 #127

Neo-liberal underground. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #128

right? especially when tax payers are put in the position of providing subsidies like food stamps xchrom Aug 2013 #130

Exactly. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #131

+1 xchrom Aug 2013 #133

This is what liberals are. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #140

Yeah but libs hide it better ....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #179

Raise the minimum wage to $12 right now! DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #134

Who knew the republican labor chorus had so many voice here? Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #144

I know. I can't keep up with all the Ignores to add to my list. nt valerief Aug 2013 #148

Or that not many here are making $15 an hour leftstreet Aug 2013 #149

+1 xchrom Aug 2013 #157

You've been here a lot longer than I have. Surely you recognize the names? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #197

So the new minimum wage; greiner3 Aug 2013 #146

and everybody who makes Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #170

No what's crazy is a multi-millionaire making his money......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #180

ok, take his salary and break it up Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #181

That's a start. THEN we take his/her ownership of the means of production....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #184

you forgot Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #185

Why? Some are assholes who probably deserve it, but........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #186

No it is not. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #229

It creates a pressure to raise wages nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #227

Wow, I've got so many people from this thread to add to my ignore list. valerief Aug 2013 #147

I support it 100%. I'm just convinced that it will not succeed. Flatulo Aug 2013 #155

Hey DU libodem Aug 2013 #165

Somebody actually did the numbers nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #167

The 68 cents figure was wrong Travis_0004 Aug 2013 #218

It is in the article nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #219

Read it again. Travis_0004 Aug 2013 #221

They just updated it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #222

It is correct for restaurants owned directly by McDonalds (about 20% of McDonalds' restaurants). SunSeeker Aug 2013 #315

Nope. Travis_0004 Aug 2013 #316

No, labor costs at franchises are only 24% of revenues. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #317

I support this movement and if you study American history ... spin Aug 2013 #191

So tired of subsidizing these lazy, gimme-gimme DirkGently Aug 2013 #192

Exactly. They never want to start with the real welfare queens, they won't even talk about that. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #268

Proud SEIU member here. Mary Kay Henry is da bomb! AllyCat Aug 2013 #204

$28 per hour union autoworker. $15/hr for fast food is reasonable Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #220

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Look at this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #225

you are so right Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #237

You are so wrong. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #283

They said on the news that fast food restaurants would have to raise prices if they B Calm Aug 2013 #244

Fast food is gross. Period. Anyone making money off me eating nasty "food" can get bent. xoom Aug 2013 #247

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fuck you. nt xchrom Aug 2013 #290

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #298

Lose your way headed to the libertarian picnic?.......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #297

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ENTITLED to a living wage from hard work. Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #306

This country is in massive debt because Bush started two wars without putting them on the books... SunSeeker Aug 2013 #309

I smell pizza. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #308

Apparently your smeller was on the money....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #319

awesome! dionysus Aug 2013 #304

Christ, who let the Heritage/Cato stooges in? HughBeaumont Aug 2013 #310

Thank you! Best post in the thread so far!! SunSeeker Aug 2013 #313

well done. nt xchrom Aug 2013 #318

Thank you for this. neverforget Aug 2013 #328

Thank you so much for this reality check. Who the hell ARE these people? nt Hekate Sep 2013 #342

Also, the minimum wage would be $21.72 if it kept pace with increases in productivity. Graph: SunSeeker Sep 2013 #346

Solidarity nt Zorra Aug 2013 #320

Wow. Another economical FAIL for many on DU. flvegan Aug 2013 #329

I'm in complete agreement with you. This is an unbelievably demoralizing thread. Hekate Sep 2013 #339