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5. "Our troops do commit acts of terror, and they end up going to JAIL for it." In what dream world?

Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:19 AM

Aug 2013

In an age where our military is used almost exclusively to further corporate and political interest, in an age when such a corporate military machine is readily visible and understandable, there is no longer any real legitimacy behind the claim "I didn't know any better."

I wasn't going to make this personal. You seem to want to push it that way but I won't. What I will say, however, is that the Iraq and Afghan wars were both utterly pointless as far as national security was concerned. And all of the casualties and deaths of these wars have been in vain. Which is a pill not easily swallowed. What is also clearly evident is the illegitimacy of these wars. So much so that we are forced to question the morality of anyone who willingly participated in them.

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I'm going to be honest here about what I see in Syria. [View all] Archae Aug 2013 OP

I'm less worried about our troops, who willingly carry out acts of terror... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #1

"Willingly carry out acts of terror?" Archae Aug 2013 #2

"Our troops do commit acts of terror, and they end up going to JAIL for it." In what dream world? Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #5

the U.S. military exports terrorism globally.... mike_c Aug 2013 #26

3-3 to keep... Agschmid Aug 2013 #7

What? This was said 1000 times during Bush/Iraq Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #8

Need more than that... Agschmid Aug 2013 #9

Under Bush, people here at DU were concerned for the troops well-being. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #38

I hope you learn from this experience... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #47

Concerned for the troops? Enough to join them? You should call 1-888-550-ARMY (2769). AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #58

What a profoundly stupid post. Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #62

It is either profoundly brilliant for people to be war cheerleaders without having any skin in the AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #63

No, it starts with a false premise Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #64

So you started with a false premise? And you admit it? What a surprise. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #65

Yeah, we're done here. Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #71

Me neither. dkf Aug 2013 #10

Probably because it's a legitimate position to hold. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #11

Yes, your contempt and disregard for their safety geek tragedy Aug 2013 #25

War is a nasty place. If you don't want to assume the risk, don't go... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #31

Apparently asking a bit of human decency is too much for you. nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #37

Human decency would dictate that you not blow up a village with a drone... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #44

I see more human decency in his argument than in yours. ocpagu Sep 2013 #48

Why haven't you signed up? Have you even driven a relative down to a recruiter's office? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #66

It's some on DU. The post should have been hidden. Not because the person is stating a claim, bluestate10 Aug 2013 #19

If it is horribly untrue, prove it wrong. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #35

People like this Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #61

She has a right to her opinion LittleBlue Sep 2013 #68

Are you serious? Our troops "willingly carry out acts of terror"? bluestate10 Aug 2013 #18

Troop hate does exist on the left, to the point geek tragedy Aug 2013 #23

That is an outright lie. But why am I not surprised to see this far right wing meme sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #39

Gravitycollapse is a troop-hating leftist. geek tragedy Sep 2013 #40

You accused DUers of Troop Hate. You know perfectly well that is what I am talking about. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #42

Show me where I've EVER gloated about someone suffering a traumatic injury. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #45

"...some around here don't care about their safety." KansDem Sep 2013 #52

You're behind the troops? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #59

It's not a matter of a few rogue soldiers. It is the entire military machine... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #32

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #41

This is the kind of base nationalist flag waving response I've come to expect... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #43

And so are YOU if you worked a day in your life during that time The Straight Story Sep 2013 #53

Sure, that would absolutely be true. The fortunate exception here is that I was 13... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #55

And people who join the military are just signing on to serve their country, you and me The Straight Story Sep 2013 #56

"I was just doing what I was told" is not an ethically sound argument... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #57

Only one little problem... sarisataka Sep 2013 #76

Well that explains it, then - you're a child. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #70

That cleared it up for me sarisataka Sep 2013 #75

"but the men and women fighting for us as a group is the most ethical fighting force on earth" ocpagu Sep 2013 #49

Maybe you can spit on some when they return from geek tragedy Aug 2013 #24

If you are injured knowingly fighting an illegal war, that is your fault, not mine... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #34

Your position is entirely classist BainsBane Sep 2013 #67

That is utterly false bullshit Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #72

Lie? WTF are you talking about? BainsBane Sep 2013 #74

Your assumption that the military is mostly minorities. Proven false MANY times. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2013 #77

N/T JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #54

Your attack on the honorable members of the US military is duly noted. MH1 Aug 2013 #28

Clearly I have struck a nerve here... Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #33

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #36

Hero worshiping? Grow up for godsakes davidpdx Sep 2013 #50

Yeah, just a bunch of honest working individuals waging illegal war, right? Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #51

Thats not overboard. BootinUp Aug 2013 #30

Same here. nt LittleBlue Sep 2013 #69

John McCain on Leno tonight convinced me that we shouldn't get involved. JVS Aug 2013 #3

What is that lunatic saying? B Calm Sep 2013 #46

I couldn't agree with you more. Cleita Aug 2013 #4

I trust President Obama Melynn Aug 2013 #6

I trust the President, but I must admit that he sometimes put his foot into his mouth before bluestate10 Aug 2013 #20

He'll end up doing "a thing" sibelian Sep 2013 #79

Here is what I see: The Straight Story Aug 2013 #12

"*OUR* troops that become targets" Martin Eden Aug 2013 #13

He'd have to. Archae Aug 2013 #14

You're going to have to explain that to me. Martin Eden Aug 2013 #16

Cruise missile wouldn't. Archae Aug 2013 #17

We agree on one thing. Martin Eden Aug 2013 #27

Unless there is a clear military/strategic ojective, then we need to stay out... JCMach1 Aug 2013 #15

Missiles become talking points jazzimov Aug 2013 #22

Assad hasn't listened very well to rebel munitions the last two years... JCMach1 Sep 2013 #78

Like so many, you are missing the Goal and Purpose. jazzimov Aug 2013 #21

How do you keep chemical weapons from being used Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #60

I tend to agree. MH1 Aug 2013 #29

There is zero chance of us going in. gulliver Sep 2013 #73