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Douglas Carpenter

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21. unless this is my imagination - it appears that most of the supporters of military strikes are

Sat Aug 31, 2013, 08:42 AM

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also the supporters of the NSA surveillance programs - I'm guessing that in most cases they don't actually support either as independent projects in their own right. They are taking this position because they believe they are obligated to support President Obama almost unconditionally. If Obama was denouncing the prospect of military strikes and heralding Ed Snowden and Glenn Greenwald as champions of freedom - they would be doing the same. Therefore, operating from that mindset their answers are bound to sound ridiculous.

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I'd like to ask DU's military strike supporters a few questions [View all] cali Aug 2013 OP

Empty speculation on your part Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #1

no, it's not empty speculation. see post #4. but the shameless hypocrisy cali Aug 2013 #5

I see your humor meter is zero Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #6

I see you won't answer after repeatedly berating others cali Aug 2013 #8

"exasperate" or "exascerbate" TheCowsCameHome Aug 2013 #2

lol. thank you for the correction. the latter. oops. cali Aug 2013 #4

"Let's stay the hell out of this." That's exactly what military-strike supporters are going to do. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #52

just to emphasize that the above are realistic ramifications of a strike: cali Aug 2013 #3

Some answers, and a question The Straight Story Aug 2013 #7

a response: first of all, no doing nothing would not make things worse. cali Aug 2013 #11

What it has to do with it is The Straight Story Aug 2013 #17

You've jumped off the ledge. cali Aug 2013 #27

Sigh, no I am making a valid point, not saying the US does The Straight Story Aug 2013 #37

It will continue getting worse, no matter what MNBrewer Aug 2013 #18

Oh, and about my Israel comment The Straight Story Aug 2013 #19

We don't border Syria. We are over 5,000 miiles from them, actually. morningfog Aug 2013 #50

Also, Assad won't let anyone visit the city of Homs, so it's possible chemical strikes Billy Love Aug 2013 #47

Precision military strikes could also make things better in that region. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #9

links for your claims please. cali Aug 2013 #13

You think Israel will just sit back? And taking out Assad doesn't necessarily mean JaneyVee Aug 2013 #22

No I don't. I think the phrase "Israel will take out" or "We take out..." cali Aug 2013 #24

Meh. Your questions didn't seem to beg such nuanced answers. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #29

the very nature of the questions I posed demands some nuance cali Aug 2013 #30

Riiiiiight. You're the one that said the rebels were Al Qaeda. But whatevs. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #33

No, dearie. I sure as shit did not. cali Aug 2013 #35

If you are not a hawk you should skip the hawk talk, 'precision strikes' and that sort of absurd Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #26

Really? Show me a progressive president that hasn't used the military. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #34

In other words, you are looking forward to escalation? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #14

the I'm not a hawk line combined with all the language about cali Aug 2013 #31

we take out assad how? MNBrewer Aug 2013 #20

Since you ask: Fuck Assad, we're taking him out. Celefin Aug 2013 #39

Precision military strikes Carolina Aug 2013 #48

Answers: Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #10

5) Are you concerned about the precedent ... BlueStreak Aug 2013 #12

yes, but I chose to address a specific set of issues. cali Aug 2013 #15

I agree with the questions you raised, and I think #5 is also important BlueStreak Aug 2013 #41

the answers so far are disturbing: "Take out Assad"- as if that's a solution cali Aug 2013 #16

unless this is my imagination - it appears that most of the supporters of military strikes are Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #21

You may be right. I haven't given it any thought. cali Aug 2013 #25

See, they remember how we took out Saddam and everything got better. Iggo Aug 2013 #38

So here's my little bedtime story underthematrix Aug 2013 #23

I heard that story when Rumsfeld told it about Iraq. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #28

Ahhh, a nice clean happy ending. That's what I'talking about. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #42

I wouldn't call myself a military strike supporter at this point... cynatnite Aug 2013 #32

fair enough, but eliminating their ability to use chemical weapons is not, cali Aug 2013 #36

I am in favor of pink unicorns BlueStreak Aug 2013 #43

I don't know... cynatnite Aug 2013 #46

You clearly aren't aware of Project Lawnchair Luftballoon. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #40

Which is a real thing BTW BlueStreak Aug 2013 #44

Is there anything the Syrian government could do that would warrant outside intervention? oberliner Aug 2013 #45

I don't think anybody is debating whether it is warranted or justified BlueStreak Aug 2013 #49

With respect to number one oberliner Sep 2013 #58

Sorry for my typo. BlueStreak Sep 2013 #60

You do know that they have been working on methods to neutralize sarin and other chem weapons right? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #51

Simple.... HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #53

Very good questions, cali... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #54

Hezbollah will not attack Iran Finnmccool Aug 2013 #55

I don't think they are war mongers either, just people who can't think for themselves Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #56

I'm beginning to believe I don't belong in the Dem party anymore. Fuck war and it's lovers. L0oniX Sep 2013 #57

Great post and great rebuttals to the war-mongering trolls. Scuba Sep 2013 #59