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magical thyme

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5. it will kill more that a few military people. civilians will also die horribly.

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:40 AM

Aug 2013

The upside is zero. There is no upside.

It may or may not deter chemical weapons. It will not reduce in any way, shape or form the killing of civilians or the civil war. It will simply add to them.

There is no such thing as a "surgical strike." There are only bombs that destroy and kill, both immediately and in the aftermath of destroyed infrastructure.

Kerry claims that chemical attacks (by others, of course) are obscene. Personally, I think war is obscene. I think it is obscene that we provided Saddam with sarin gas to use against Iran. I think it is obscene that we dropped napalm and Agent Orange on Vietnam. I think it is obscene that we dropped white phosphorus and depleted uranium on Iraq. I think "daisy cutter" bombs are obscene.

Who the fuck is Kerry or any other American to try to claim the high road by bombing?

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I think it unlikely that bombing Syria once would lead to regional war. [View all] cthulu2016 Aug 2013 OP

I disagree. After 60+ years of imperialism, I think the world will finally stand up to the bully. Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #1

It may not be likely but it's hardly far fetched. cali Aug 2013 #2

The point is that we talk of "likely" and "unlikely" but those words cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #7

sorry, I think you're taking this to the land of the absurd cali Aug 2013 #13

The OP is entirely about "Focusing on what MAY happen" cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #15

This is a civil war with many outsiders participating. riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #3

And this is based on your on the ground experience in the regoin or on how things Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #4

Do you always respond only to headlines? cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #9

it will kill more that a few military people. civilians will also die horribly. magical thyme Aug 2013 #5

And shooting at Archduke Ferdinand wasn't thought to lead to the death of millions The Second Stone Aug 2013 #6

To the military, missile attacks are like potato chips. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #8

Israel hit Syria twice last year with no retaliation, much less regional war. Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #10

The premise that the U.S. will "fix" Syria with bombs DirkGently Aug 2013 #14

This isn't about Assad, it is about the next chemical attack Motown_Johnny Aug 2013 #17

So, you think we're going to dip a toe in, pull it out? DirkGently Aug 2013 #18

I don't think we should send missiles Daninmo Aug 2013 #11

Slippery slope dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #12

You have the upside/downside relation exactly correct. dkf Aug 2013 #16