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Whisp

(24,096 posts)
178. okay, I'm not sure where I heard they were
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:20 PM
Aug 2013

but now I'm going to have to be Real Careful how I say that.

I think Miranda is the best and safest.

As they should be. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #1
Errr..... What? You advocate giving up our agents to our adversaries? Adrahil Aug 2013 #31
I think the poster menat they should be "in deep shit." nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #35
How do you know its not PLANTED? Rockyj Aug 2013 #37
has greenwald said it was? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #45
Any evidence of that? nt Adrahil Aug 2013 #53
Greenwald's outrage is planted to...to...now I'm so confused! randome Aug 2013 #54
very funny. n/t BlueToTheBone Aug 2013 #63
Come to think of it, you may be right! treestar Aug 2013 #91
I don't know about the op being funny BlueToTheBone Aug 2013 #104
You know you're in bad shape when your default and assumed position is treestar Aug 2013 #90
That will be Turbineguy Aug 2013 #2
All I know is I sure am glad I'm not them madokie Aug 2013 #3
Creative Speculation Downwinder Aug 2013 #4
simple inferencing nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #5
simple something MNBrewer Aug 2013 #6
Why didn't Assange ever release the files he got on Russia? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #7
Wild-ass guessing with no basis at all muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #10
well, no basis other than all the top secret documents with the encryption code written on paper arely staircase Aug 2013 #20
Miranda did not go to Russia or China - this all your fantasy (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #143
no but the guy he got the stuff from damn sure did. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #155
So the Brits TM99 Aug 2013 #206
Miranda claims he had no idea what he was carrying. If he is telling the truth arely staircase Aug 2013 #207
There is no way in hell that TM99 Aug 2013 #209
He claimed he didn't know what he was carrying and yet he had the "password" arely staircase Aug 2013 #210
There is so much speculation in that article as it is. TM99 Aug 2013 #211
No, the op is making it up as he goes. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #230
CIA Runs Agents - NSA Does Signals Intelligence - Why Would Agent Names Be Part Of NSA Files? cantbeserious Aug 2013 #26
Why indeed? Especially when most of the NSA "intel" is private Communions between people just living RC Aug 2013 #62
Yes - Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) And Human Intelligence (HUMINT) Are Quite Different Matters cantbeserious Aug 2013 #68
Because there is cross-pollination? sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #191
Because Of The Division Of Responsibility Be The Tow Intelligence Agencies cantbeserious Aug 2013 #199
So the NSA doesn't know what the CIA is doing. OK gotcha. sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #212
InterAgency Rivalry Is Still InterAgency Rivalry cantbeserious Aug 2013 #217
According to DU rules shouldn't this kind of thread be in Conspiracy Theories. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #131
since it is being reported today by the washington post, cnn and business insider arely staircase Aug 2013 #135
The media has a vested interest in spinning conspiracy theories. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #138
oh ok then I guess we should post all stories from major media outlets arely staircase Aug 2013 #139
"Boyfriend" Bonobo Aug 2013 #8
They do tend to give themselves away, don't they? MNBrewer Aug 2013 #11
Well, how should Greenwald's partner be referenced? rbixby Aug 2013 #13
no shit. arely staircase Aug 2013 #18
No, no, he was a journalist because...Greenwald said so. randome Aug 2013 #19
I'm still trying to wrap my head around "boyfriend" being a homophobic slur arely staircase Aug 2013 #24
Greenwald is married to Miranda, so 'boyfriend' is now a homophobic slur Whisp Aug 2013 #29
Had I known they were married I would have called him his husband. arely staircase Aug 2013 #32
their having to resort to this sort of thing treestar Aug 2013 #93
Greenwald refers to him as partner, as do most stories sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #189
The detention of my partner, David Miranda otohara Aug 2013 #190
I don't think that is accurate. MADem Aug 2013 #174
okay, I'm not sure where I heard they were Whisp Aug 2013 #178
They are in a long-term relationship, that much we know. MADem Aug 2013 #181
Spouse. GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #236
well I guess I will have to stop calling mine that arely staircase Aug 2013 #21
Wtf? Adrahil Aug 2013 #36
One of my best friends is gay. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #41
so me and mine should stop calling each other that? seriously we would both like to know what you arely staircase Aug 2013 #48
LOL! randome Aug 2013 #65
we have our password memorized arely staircase Aug 2013 #70
hee hee. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #85
DUZY!.....for " journalists "...brilliant . Nt pkdu Aug 2013 #182
One of my best friends is straight and you know what? He first introduced her as 'my date' and Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #115
Which implies it is much easier to know the proper term when one is more close to the parties. Liberal Veteran Aug 2013 #224
and i know straight and gay people who refer to people they have been with more than 5 years as JI7 Sep 2013 #243
uh, he is in fact thus. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #17
Unfortunately, many of the mainstream media accounts use that term. pnwmom Aug 2013 #154
I assumed they weren't for that very reason. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #157
I'm still not convinced those were Snowden's documents. randome Aug 2013 #9
names are probably secret joshcryer Aug 2013 #16
But why would they be so sloppy? Whisp Aug 2013 #34
Exciting chapter and publicity for his book. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #39
you know, it could be as simple as that. Whisp Aug 2013 #77
I don't think they are smart enough to do feints. randome Aug 2013 #52
The US and the UK share lots of intel Adrahil Aug 2013 #38
But didn't Snowden give everything to Greenwald earlier? randome Aug 2013 #42
good question! n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #94
Is this another #5/#13 weekend? PSPS Aug 2013 #12
1. "I am not here to hide from justice." randome Aug 2013 #14
15. They're not giving Obama the opportunity to TRULY excel jsr Aug 2013 #22
he ended warrantless wiretapping, raised taxes on the rich ended torture and did not cut arely staircase Aug 2013 #203
14 arguments you can't refute treestar Aug 2013 #97
Probably, pretty obvious, likely... or maybe just making stuff up. reformist2 Aug 2013 #15
I choose door number four AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #129
meanwhile greenwald is writing his book.... madrchsod Aug 2013 #23
Speculation At Best - CIA Runs Agents - Not NSA - All Part Of Continuing Character Assassination Efforts cantbeserious Aug 2013 #25
These were British documents detailing British agents. randome Aug 2013 #30
Snowden TooK NSA Files - Why Would British Agents Be Part Of Signal Intelligence Files cantbeserious Aug 2013 #33
It's my contention that this Libertarian 'Army' does a lot more spying than we thought. randome Aug 2013 #40
Interesting Speculation - AFAIK The Files Related To Signals Intelligence Not Covert Spy Networks cantbeserious Aug 2013 #43
Journalists investigate stories. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #73
Greenwald is smart enough, I agree. randome Aug 2013 #79
So you theorize that there is a Libertarian Army conspiring to spy on somebody? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #144
It's a theory. A guess. The fact that Wikileaks rushed to Snowden's defense 'proves' nothing. randome Aug 2013 #151
Libertarian army? neverforget Aug 2013 #152
You'll notice that 'army' is quoted, which is grammatical shorthand for 'so-called'. randome Aug 2013 #156
Shouldnt discussions of a mystic Libertarian Army and their conspiracy be relegated to rhett o rick Aug 2013 #165
The only thing 'mystic' about this group is Snowden's claims of omniscience. randome Aug 2013 #172
So you claim there really is a "Libertarian Army"? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #175
Not an army. An 'army'! randome Aug 2013 #202
Don't Hosts only deal with the Original Post in a thread?... SidDithers Aug 2013 #214
Are you asking or telling? I didnt even mention "hosts". I was simply trying to rhett o rick Aug 2013 #216
dunno arely staircase Aug 2013 #44
Again Speculation - Signals Intelligence Information And Spy Networks And Agent Name Are Not The Same cantbeserious Aug 2013 #46
so then the phone data collection isn't spying, since it is being done by the NSA? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #50
That is not even an attempt at an honest argument. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #66
i know I am calling bullshit on the poster's claim the NSA isn't a spy organization nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #72
I Never Stated That The NSA Does Not "Spy" - However, The NSA Does Not "Run" Agent Networks cantbeserious Aug 2013 #78
The dishonest responder is conflating Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #113
Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) and Human Intelligence (HUMINT) Are Quite Different Parts Of "Spying" cantbeserious Aug 2013 #71
I am well aware of that. arely staircase Aug 2013 #75
Yes - NSA Does Not "Run" Agent Networks - The CIA "Runs" Agent Networks cantbeserious Aug 2013 #76
I missed that. Can you provide a link? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #121
The link in the OP refers to them as "highly classified UK intelligence documents." randome Aug 2013 #132
Snowden originally worked for the CIA. Maybe he ultimately is part of the CIA/NSA feud over funding. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #74
So who gets to do the actual blackmailing? randome Aug 2013 #80
Further evidence that there's only one kind of conspiracy theory allowed in GD. Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #27
+1. Ain't THAT the stone cold truth. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #47
DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #28
Upsetting. Fucking idiots. TwilightGardener Aug 2013 #49
Snowden worked for the CIA in Geneva and elsewhere. His collection probably goes back FarCenter Aug 2013 #51
"Obvious?" How do you know that? You don't. You are guessing and that theory fits JDPriestly Aug 2013 #55
for the hundredth time arely staircase Aug 2013 #114
Those claims were made in legal arguments requesting the permission of the court to review JDPriestly Aug 2013 #158
they have indeed asked (and I believe received) permission from the court to continue to analyze the arely staircase Aug 2013 #167
Your "facts" are dotymed Aug 2013 #56
well I am a computer algorithm persona within a giant NSA mainframe computer arely staircase Aug 2013 #59
Very telling......eom dotymed Aug 2013 #82
This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. arely staircase Aug 2013 #87
With enough time to write 33 posts a day HangOnKids Sep 2013 #233
counting other DUrs posts arely staircase Sep 2013 #239
Valerie Plame chuckstevens Aug 2013 #57
That is true, and very disturbing, isn't it? Whisp Aug 2013 #102
Great HangOnKids Sep 2013 #235
they have called me homophobic arely staircase Sep 2013 #241
We knew about that because Joe and Valerie told us. See the difference? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #111
Because no-one in the real world has said he did 'give up' any intelligence agents muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #245
I really hate to contribute to these flame bait/character assassination posts, but hueymahl Aug 2013 #58
ok arely staircase Aug 2013 #69
The UK Govt. is judging security? The same UK Govt. that allowed all their shit to get stolen? n/t TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #130
so, uh arely staircase Aug 2013 #134
You've completely missed the point. TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #136
no, the British government has implied their secrets were stolen arely staircase Aug 2013 #225
Thank you. hueymahl Aug 2013 #221
I wrote here on DU when this Snowden thing first came up underthematrix Aug 2013 #60
How do you know creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #61
here arely staircase Aug 2013 #64
Well, it's weird, is what it is. bemildred Aug 2013 #67
he should have used snowden's invisibility hoodie arely staircase Aug 2013 #84
Being snotty won''t get you far with me, Sir. bemildred Aug 2013 #86
yes, credibility has indeed been damaged. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #89
Mr. Greenwald's certainly has, and Ms Poitras is in question, but it remains to be proven. bemildred Aug 2013 #92
someone here has suggested the stuff was planted on Miranda's computer. arely staircase Aug 2013 #98
Anything is possible at this point. They all lie. bemildred Aug 2013 #103
one thing is for sure arely staircase Aug 2013 #108
Well, he obviously likes his job, so I do expect him to keep at it, as best he can. bemildred Aug 2013 #112
He will also issue some sanctimonious tweets as soon as the story starts changing too n/t sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #198
Right, we don't want anybody acting sanctimonious, do we? bemildred Sep 2013 #238
It's alien hoodies that are spying on us! That 'woman' is obviously a plastic manikin! randome Aug 2013 #105
to serve man nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #109
Yes. I can't see Poitras sending a password on a piece of paper. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #231
I think Glenn and comrad eddie are communist spies. stonecutter357 Aug 2013 #81
They are their own worst enemies so maybe the best thing to do is leave them be. randome Aug 2013 #88
Wow. 1950 called. They want their red baiting back. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #218
No one is coming after you. stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #237
"Its Now Pretty Obvious " Really? How so? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #83
because their security methods suck arely staircase Aug 2013 #95
You are pushing a Conspiracy Theory. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #117
lol arely staircase Aug 2013 #124
Did you read the articles? Speculation and theory. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #179
So the NSA totally blows off pretty basic data protections, and that's cool, but MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #96
Yeah, except the story is unbelievable. caseymoz Aug 2013 #99
Link? Octafish Aug 2013 #100
links arely staircase Aug 2013 #133
Does using the phrase "forward deployed intelligence operatives" mean . . . TomClash Aug 2013 #101
the story that has been posted several times in this thread arely staircase Aug 2013 #106
Except this basically refutes your suppositions: scarletwoman Aug 2013 #107
LINK PLEASE? Ocelot Aug 2013 #110
CT should not be allowed in GD. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #116
But I notice that the Anti-CT squad has approved this message. They only lock CT that goes against rhett o rick Aug 2013 #119
There is no amorphous 'they'. randome Aug 2013 #123
Personally I think we are to "CT" paranoid. Obviously some CT gets way crazy, but rhett o rick Aug 2013 #169
Awww.... SidDithers Aug 2013 #163
I am disappointed but not surprised at your petty ridicule. Are you here to only rhett o rick Aug 2013 #173
Wait... SidDithers Aug 2013 #176
That is your argument? You're justifying your behavior on what I do? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #184
Pot. Kettle...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #197
Well yah. Volunteer as a gd host. Interesting things Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #219
I am a GD host. And it is very interesting. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #220
uh huh arely staircase Aug 2013 #120
you wouldn't be one who still thinks Hastings car was hacked Whisp Aug 2013 #141
Don't forget the FBI plot to kill OWS protestors in Houston. arely staircase Aug 2013 #196
It is not obvious all. There can be many alternate explanations. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #118
my spin? arely staircase Aug 2013 #128
Why should private contractors have access to this information in the first place? Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #122
Apparently Snowden used his coworkers' passwords. randome Aug 2013 #125
definitely nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #126
Except the article doesn't say that AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #127
really arely staircase Aug 2013 #137
Except it doesn't say that... Whisp Aug 2013 #142
Assume AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #148
so that should also apply to Snowden, proof he can hack into Obama's email, etc., Whisp Aug 2013 #164
Assume = wild guess AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #168
and conspicuously absent is a denial from miranda, greenwald, etc. arely staircase Aug 2013 #149
I am losing track on the sequence of events... Whisp Aug 2013 #166
ok arely staircase Aug 2013 #186
I certainly can be wrong on this Whisp Aug 2013 #192
if he did send Miranda through Heathrow unknowingly carrying an encrypted list of British agents arely staircase Aug 2013 #195
Had to "ASSUME" AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #146
so if someone not intrusted with your credit cards got ahold of them and took off to europe arely staircase Aug 2013 #153
And when you're talking about people's lives at stake, it's even more important to not take chances. randome Aug 2013 #159
Exactly. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #160
Actually, the very act of trying to move agents to safety can endanger them. randome Aug 2013 #161
Nice try except AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #171
yeah, the stakes are much higher than a credit card situation -lives are on the line nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #227
Lives are on the line 'if what they made up is true' AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #232
The only thing "obvious" is that claims have been made stupidicus Aug 2013 #140
so they can't count encrypted files? nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #145
it's your material/proof stupidicus Aug 2013 #170
if the british can decrypt enough of it to see that the info revealed the identities of their agents arely staircase Aug 2013 #187
And IF pigs could fly AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #200
and if you would make a coherent point we could discuss this issue nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #201
good grief stupidicus Sep 2013 #246
What do you think he was doing at the Russian consulate with the data? arely staircase Sep 2013 #247
it's child's play against the likes of you stupidicus Sep 2013 #248
Spending a couple of days at the Russian consulate in Hong Kong... SidDithers Aug 2013 #147
Visiting old friends? MADem Aug 2013 #177
It certainly makes the choice of Moscow the destination from Hong Kong curious... SidDithers Aug 2013 #180
I am singing from that same sheet music. MADem Aug 2013 #183
His 30th birthday party then off to a private residence for arely staircase Aug 2013 #193
Well this OP sure has distinguished the thinkers from the haters. delrem Aug 2013 #150
good lord. ucrdem Aug 2013 #162
I would, at a minimum, like to see Snowden answer for his actions. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #185
This is about an inability to secure information. mick063 Aug 2013 #188
Since we are throwing CT Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #194
Posts like this are an embarrassment to the DU Community. bvar22 Aug 2013 #204
We do have a forum for that. It's called 'General Discussion'. randome Aug 2013 #205
This should be filed next to Colin Powell's speech before the UN. bvar22 Aug 2013 #208
Detained partner of Guardian journalist was ‘human carrier pigeon’, High Court is told Whisp Aug 2013 #213
More lies from the authoritarian camp. n/t alarimer Aug 2013 #215
Your insults are homophobic. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #222
Your criticism is weak. Whisp Aug 2013 #223
given what I just spent the last hour and a half doing arely staircase Aug 2013 #229
No, it's not. woo me with science Aug 2013 #226
It's been obvious from the beginning Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #228
we have had some discussions that didnt go badly SwampG8r Sep 2013 #234
gay and bisexual men have boyfriends, I know because I am one who does. jeez arely staircase Sep 2013 #240
i hope its a good cup SwampG8r Sep 2013 #242
recommend flamingdem Sep 2013 #244
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