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hfojvt

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79. except one could make the same parallel to Iraq
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:33 AM
Aug 2013

1. Did I have information about Iraq that BushCo did NOT have?

a. I was of the opinion that Iraq did NOT have WMD while BushCo (and the media) claimed he did. Certainly Bush had more information than I did, but it turned out that I was right.
b. I was of the opinion that we should let the inspectors do their job and that Saddam was cooperating (I originally thought that Saddam would not cooperate and thus give Bush an excuse to invade, and I also thought that Bush would not invade without a good excuse - two wrongs for me there.)
c. I expected the war to cause many more American casualties than it did, but knew that invasion meant death and destruction. BushCo surely knew that too.
d. I was afraid that Iraq would be hard to stabilize as some were predicting. Again, the antiwar people were right and Bush wrong.
e. I was afraid war would be very expensive - and it was.

and so on

2. It never seemed to me that Bush was very smart (although, unlike me, he did become rich AND serve two terms as President - but still struck me as a doofus every time I heard him speak.)

3. It never seemed to me that Bush cared about human life, either in America or in Iraq. That he was quite willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of human lives to make a few million dollars for KBR and friends.

At this point in the Obama Presidency though, I do not really believe Obama cares very much about ordinary Americans. So I am not sure what to believe about his motives in regard to Syria. Hard to see a clear profit motive and presumably Obama does not have the same ties to KBR and such that Bush did/does.

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I posted this in the BOG ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 OP
Yes, democracy means never, ever, *ever* questioning anyone with enough money to get elected villager Aug 2013 #1
Did you read what I wrote ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #2
Do you just do reflexive snark, or actually consider replies? villager Aug 2013 #4
Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #11
And your bitching and moaning isn't really "supporting" the President... villager Aug 2013 #14
See, the difference is ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #20
So now you're claiming that "you know better?" villager Aug 2013 #83
Obama would shudder at many of his "supporters" here. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #24
correct SwampG8r Aug 2013 #33
I think ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #62
I would agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #60
i read them SwampG8r Aug 2013 #32
Some points: LWolf Aug 2013 #75
The thing about Bush is madamesilverspurs Aug 2013 #13
I'm surprised this was controversial in the BOG. pnwmom Aug 2013 #3
It was a controversy ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #5
i think SwampG8r Aug 2013 #35
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #59
look at us discussing and stuff on du SwampG8r Aug 2013 #71
And this, children, is why I've never visited the BOG... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #6
Thank you! ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #12
We so appreciate you not bring your vomit into the BOG. Cha Aug 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #51
Way to raise the level of discourse. n/t Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #81
I posted there by accident this past week and was banned from the group Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #23
LOL, how progressive of them! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #31
That's what you don't get ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #65
I had never read the forum until your post..... Logical Aug 2013 #66
I disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #72
I agree with you Andy823 Aug 2013 #78
That was not my experience with the group so I will disagree. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #80
But now, according to the OP, Union Scribe Aug 2013 #25
i went there once SwampG8r Aug 2013 #37
And that is ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #64
that is controversial? neverforget Aug 2013 #7
No. It brought people into the BOG who only wanted to disrupt DevonRex Aug 2013 #47
Not the only "analysis" possible. delrem Aug 2013 #8
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #16
reply: delrem Aug 2013 #19
IOW ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #21
Well, you speak for yourself, so yes, Okay! delrem Aug 2013 #22
I tend to trust things when I can check the math and/or the logic hfojvt Aug 2013 #39
Bingo ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #63
u must believe everything the leader tells you. never question authority no matter who it is nt msongs Aug 2013 #9
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #17
Nothing to see here folks. It's all under control. another_liberal Aug 2013 #30
Point 1 and 2, that's what I believe Autumn Aug 2013 #10
My sentiments exactly. old guy Aug 2013 #18
take it back there--back to that fetid little sandbox MisterP Aug 2013 #26
Should have kept it in the BOG quinnox Aug 2013 #27
BOG kardonb Aug 2013 #28
Halleluyah! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #52
I offered this response . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #29
That group should be banned from everything I've read about it and from the one peek I took. cui bono Aug 2013 #36
Every effort should be made to warn the President against this potential attack. another_liberal Aug 2013 #38
the groups are all mostly to post supportive things, that's why they are made JI7 Aug 2013 #41
Whatever you say. another_liberal Aug 2013 #42
yes, that's how groups work. all groups JI7 Aug 2013 #43
Perhaps . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #44
they use to not be shown there,, i don't know why they changed it JI7 Aug 2013 #45
It does seem a bit misleading . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #46
I responded to a post also found on the DU home page - made a couple-word post about DrDan Aug 2013 #55
If they can arbitrarily block anyone they disagree with . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #58
agree 100% - did you post that on ATA? Someone did and I wanted to DrDan Aug 2013 #74
No, I had not. another_liberal Aug 2013 #82
I bet they have blocked 20x more DUers than any other group. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #70
that does not answer the question though hfojvt Aug 2013 #49
My point exactly! ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #67
except one could make the same parallel to Iraq hfojvt Aug 2013 #79
I guess they're a full blown cult now, if they're calling sycophantic crap like THAT heresy. Marr Aug 2013 #34
You misread. The post drew disruptors there. Hekate Aug 2013 #50
Sycophantic crap? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #68
can i ask a favor? SwampG8r Aug 2013 #40
I disagree with you on this topic Marrah_G Aug 2013 #48
No need to apologize, 1StrongBlackMan.. But, thank you Cha Aug 2013 #53
+1,000 nt MADem Aug 2013 #56
I have been to the BOG a few times LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #54
What a thoughtful post, full of nuance and mature thought. MADem Aug 2013 #57
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #69
K&R! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #61
The BOG really misses Meta because so much of their work consists of sermons against the sinners Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #73
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #76
Self serving characterization that is not supported by the fact that you broght this from BOG Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #77
Faith is for spirituality and deeply personal associations not for anything approaching TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #84
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