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60. The "Arab Spring" was cooked up by the US

Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:12 PM

Aug 2013

I know a local professor who worked with the so-called Egyptian insurgents for years on the "Spring".

The US knew what would happen, just not when it would happen. The Egyptians demanded to control the trigger. The "uprising" was authentic, all right, but we were behind it all the way. And, like most thing our intelligence is behind, it went awry. Just another Iran.

All of that"Arab Spring" bullshit is starry-eyed idealism. It is all about control of Northern Africa. If we can't control it, we will settle for chaos.

As far as "authentic uprising", if "choreographed by US and UK" defines "authentic", well I suppose one could stretch it to mean same.

The ignorance on this is not "gross", merely selectively spotty.

I have never replied to any of your idealistic posts because your "reality" is not of the real world. But I just got out of bed and saw this claptrap and could not resist.

Read the article at the link below, then we can talk about how well it all worked out.

http://www.watchsonomacounty.com/2011/03/washington/ssu-professor-egypt-revolt-not-spontaneous/

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Leaked E-Mails: Syria intervention plan fueled by oil interests---NOT--- chemical weapon concern [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #1

No! BuelahWitch Aug 2013 #2

This is old news. And who didn't already know this? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #38

I guess I should have added this to my post... BuelahWitch Aug 2013 #41

I think this will help others who don't know Rockyj Aug 2013 #77

The vast majority of the little town in which I reside chervilant Aug 2013 #87

Sarcasm ... GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #121

BINGO! As is and has always been every other intervention/'humanitarian' mission in the ME. nt. polly7 Aug 2013 #3

Follow the money Cronus Protagonist Aug 2013 #26

putting money into cheaper, renewable energy, Volaris Aug 2013 #50

+++ nt dougolat Aug 2013 #79

Not this again, ... CRH Aug 2013 #93

+1000 Raksha Sep 2013 #106

It's extremely short-sighted of the oil companies... Blanks Sep 2013 #135

But then corporations would have to use their own money. notadmblnd Aug 2013 #54

It used to be a GIVEN in any decent Business School, Volaris Aug 2013 #88

Seems as though we are the axis of evil BrotherIvan Aug 2013 #4

Follow the money. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #5

In the Middle East, follow the Imam, literally. Religious sectarianism trumps money. Coyotl Aug 2013 #13

The Saudi Royals are sitting on a powder keg at home. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Aug 2013 #34

Well said. n/t loudsue Aug 2013 #98

Seriously? did anyone actually think any of our involvement in the Middle East was about WMDs Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #6

+1 mike_c Aug 2013 #74

Your post has crossed the line of acceptability standards Enthusiast Aug 2013 #84

US involvement in a civil conflict is illegal. Coyotl Aug 2013 #7

lol leeroysphitz Aug 2013 #55

What you fail to acknowledge is #1. Diplomatic solutions are thwarted by PUTIN KittyWampus Aug 2013 #8

Speaking of diplomatic solutions, what do YOU think the American and Turkish ambassadors JDPriestly Aug 2013 #19

Putin, Putin, Putin MattSh Aug 2013 #22

The "Arab Spring" was cooked up by the US Link Speed Aug 2013 #60

I don't think what you said and what the OP said are mutually exclusive. Maraya1969 Aug 2013 #92

the US was waiting to see who was gonna win, and back that horse... KG Aug 2013 #9

I'm surprised anyone here Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #10

I'm surprised nobody here has pointed out that *that's not what the leaked documents say* Recursion Aug 2013 #100

Yeah. Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #101

So, no substantive response? Recursion Aug 2013 #102

Thank you. The oil 'thing' doesn't cut it in Syria's case. lumpy Sep 2013 #103

You asked: "if it were about oil, why aren't we bombing Venezuela instead?" Little Star Sep 2013 #123

OK, tell me specifically what you think about this pipeline made war desirable? Recursion Sep 2013 #124

I am no expert on the subject so it will be hard for me to explain anything...... Little Star Sep 2013 #125

I have searched DU. It's a bunch of links to pages about the existence of pipelines Recursion Sep 2013 #126

If I run across some of what I've read again I'll send you a link. It's out there. Peace. Little Star Sep 2013 #129

May I also suggest that you read the OP we are now in..... Little Star Sep 2013 #133

What's with this story? Rebels admit gas attack result of mishandling chemical weapons Coyotl Aug 2013 #11

Watch the lapdog media move to discredit that story. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #21

I noticed the story was not propagating via the usual channels. Coyotl Aug 2013 #59

It's a tabloid blogging site Bradical79 Aug 2013 #95

Watch the source walk it back. stevil Sep 2013 #110

Ah, relying on Sky News, The Examiner and World Net Daily. Says a lot for you. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #32

I'm not relying on anything, except to ask a question here. The long-time AP reporter is credible Coyotl Aug 2013 #61

That report was faked, and doesn't appear anywhere but that single site George II Aug 2013 #58

Your statement is false. Coyotl Aug 2013 #62

That report appeared on a single website, and it now is.... George II Aug 2013 #64

Yes, that little domain was flooded by this report and overwhelmed quickly. Coyotl Aug 2013 #71

I'm saying that it may be untrue because it hasn't appeared anywhere else and... George II Aug 2013 #72

A chemical release killing over 1,400 people is NOT "relatively few people died" Coyotl Aug 2013 #73

I didn't say that!!!!!!!!!! George II Aug 2013 #85

Thanks. Been wondering about that report and wondering why it hadn't been reported anywhere lumpy Sep 2013 #105

Have all of the "Arab Spring" type "revolutions (sic) now been exposed riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #12

awesome� now DU'ers can deny the Arab Spring too! It was all a PNAC plot. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #16

PNAC, Gulf oil states Sunni religious fanaticism v Shia states, riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #17

Are you claiming that the US, France, UK had no role in those regime changes and rebellions? leveymg Aug 2013 #30

No. But I"m also not blindly pointing out PNAC and applying it to all situations AND ignoring Putin KittyWampus Aug 2013 #33

You are the only one who seems to think this is all about PNAC on this thread nt riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #35

right� it's all about Oil. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #42

I guess you glossed right over mine (and a few others') points about religious riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #48

On that bridge you are talking about selling, the worlds powers around 1923 thought MindMover Aug 2013 #82

Then you need to Caretha Sep 2013 #104

Go stick your head in the sand and say over and over again ... MindMover Sep 2013 #141

Godwin GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #122

Well, yes it is. NealK Sep 2013 #132

Just like Occupy Wall Street Renew Deal Sep 2013 #137

Rather obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, pangaia Aug 2013 #14

Yep iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #15

Is that the Rand corp.? yes, what emails? lumpy Sep 2013 #107

reality sucks G_j Aug 2013 #18

McCain soundsgreat Aug 2013 #23

We should send McCain to Syria to kick their asses! B Calm Sep 2013 #120

Absolutely SHOCKING! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #24

I'm shocked! La Cucaracha Aug 2013 #25

Effin' Duh!!! malaise Aug 2013 #27

"Follow the oil "is old hat . Not that much oil in Syria. lumpy Sep 2013 #108

Oil interests? And Bandar Bush involved? Say it ain't so! n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #28

Looks like the Bushies are still running the ME "game" grasswire Aug 2013 #39

Why else would Obama send McCain and Graham to represent his administration in the Middle East? Catherina Aug 2013 #57

Here they are at it again soundsgreat Aug 2013 #86

It isn't so. lumpy Sep 2013 #111

K&R (n/t) Ocelot Aug 2013 #29

Wish that was surprising. k&r polichick Aug 2013 #31

quelle surprise nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #36

It's a racket. n/t reusrename Aug 2013 #37

Carlin said it was a club... grasswire Aug 2013 #40

It's always about the oil (money, power and control). nt TBF Aug 2013 #43

Yes it is. Humanitarian, my ass. Little Star Sep 2013 #128

If Rwanda had oil............................. mick063 Aug 2013 #44

Gee what a surprise gopiscrap Aug 2013 #45

Anyone who thinks this is about the children is delusional. obxhead Aug 2013 #46

"Syria intervention plan fueled by oil interests"??? George II Aug 2013 #47

+1 iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #65

I'm not sure. Did I see Syria's name even mentioned in the doc. ? lumpy Sep 2013 #112

Follow the money. The WH is just the frontman. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #49

Bandar Boosh again. Keeps rearing his head in all these ME 'conflicts' and shamefully sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #51

Lucky I own all of that Chevron and Shell stock! another_liberal Aug 2013 #52

It's always been about the control of the flow of oil notadmblnd Aug 2013 #53

War is always about protecting the money, not the people. nt valerief Aug 2013 #56

K&R! Phlem Aug 2013 #63

If corporations are people, can we arrest the oil companies for treason? Initech Aug 2013 #66

why would anyone hate the Guardian besides that it disproves their talking points? yurbud Aug 2013 #67

Because of oil?? workinclasszero Aug 2013 #68

You mean evil greedy people will kill for money? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #69

Well Duh!! Hutzpa Aug 2013 #70

You linked to CONSERVATIVES FOR LIBERTY???? DevonRex Aug 2013 #75

Maybe this time, unlike GWBush felix_numinous Aug 2013 #76

They'll call it Operation Pump Spike... backscatter712 Aug 2013 #78

Syria ranks 33rd in the world in oil production BainsBane Aug 2013 #80

How can a report from 5 years ago prove what Obama's motivation is now? pnwmom Aug 2013 #81

I'd like to express my skepticism over this. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #83

Because it's not his oil company, but the competition, who will benefit. Scuba Aug 2013 #89

I don't buy that. You wouldn't BELIEVE how tightly tied these guys are......... AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #91

Here's another smoking gun..... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #90

It's always about oil. nt City Lights Aug 2013 #94

I am shocked! Brigid Aug 2013 #96

K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #97

The leaked emails don't say a thing about oil Recursion Aug 2013 #99

Yep, lively discussion here: joshcryer Sep 2013 #109

Global Research blog is the reference for information the original poster quoted in the DU post you lumpy Sep 2013 #114

I was linking the ensuing discussion in that thread. joshcryer Sep 2013 #115

Yes where are those 'leaked e-mails' ? And the 'oil thing' crap just doesn' hack it. Syria is way lumpy Sep 2013 #113

Middle East >>> Saudi Arabia ... brett_jv Sep 2013 #118

It's like d�j� vu all over again. NealK Sep 2013 #116

+1 for you & K&R for the thread. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #117

Holly shit, I just saw that. NealK Sep 2013 #130

This makes no sense. LTX Sep 2013 #119

Shocked - just shocked I'm telling you just shocked! liberal N proud Sep 2013 #127

Gasping over this suggests a certain naivete. Skidmore Sep 2013 #131

Arab Gas Pipeline...... Little Star Sep 2013 #134

Such "sources." Wasn't there a time when you were impartial? great white snark Sep 2013 #136

never kpete Sep 2013 #138

Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" awards rocktivity Sep 2013 #139

15 hijackers on 911 were Saudi's and we didn't attack Saudi Arabia. Well ain't that special. L0oniX Sep 2013 #140