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In reply to the discussion: So Its Now Pretty Obvious Snowden Gave the Names of US and British Agents to China and Russia [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)216. Are you asking or telling? I didnt even mention "hosts". I was simply trying to
point out that those that pretend to be hard and fast against CT are really only hard and fast against CT that doesnt agree with their world view. Seems to me they are using CT as an excuse to lock threads that they dont like.
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arely staircase
Aug 2013
OP
well, no basis other than all the top secret documents with the encryption code written on paper
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#20
Miranda did not go to Russia or China - this all your fantasy (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#143
Miranda claims he had no idea what he was carrying. If he is telling the truth
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#207
He claimed he didn't know what he was carrying and yet he had the "password"
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#210
CIA Runs Agents - NSA Does Signals Intelligence - Why Would Agent Names Be Part Of NSA Files?
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#26
Why indeed? Especially when most of the NSA "intel" is private Communions between people just living
RC
Aug 2013
#62
Yes - Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) And Human Intelligence (HUMINT) Are Quite Different Matters
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#68
Because Of The Division Of Responsibility Be The Tow Intelligence Agencies
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#199
According to DU rules shouldn't this kind of thread be in Conspiracy Theories.
avaistheone1
Aug 2013
#131
since it is being reported today by the washington post, cnn and business insider
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#135
oh ok then I guess we should post all stories from major media outlets
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#139
I'm still trying to wrap my head around "boyfriend" being a homophobic slur
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#24
so me and mine should stop calling each other that? seriously we would both like to know what you
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#48
One of my best friends is straight and you know what? He first introduced her as 'my date' and
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#115
Which implies it is much easier to know the proper term when one is more close to the parties.
Liberal Veteran
Aug 2013
#224
and i know straight and gay people who refer to people they have been with more than 5 years as
JI7
Sep 2013
#243
he ended warrantless wiretapping, raised taxes on the rich ended torture and did not cut
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#203
Speculation At Best - CIA Runs Agents - Not NSA - All Part Of Continuing Character Assassination Efforts
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#25
Snowden TooK NSA Files - Why Would British Agents Be Part Of Signal Intelligence Files
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#33
It's my contention that this Libertarian 'Army' does a lot more spying than we thought.
randome
Aug 2013
#40
Interesting Speculation - AFAIK The Files Related To Signals Intelligence Not Covert Spy Networks
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#43
So you theorize that there is a Libertarian Army conspiring to spy on somebody?
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#144
It's a theory. A guess. The fact that Wikileaks rushed to Snowden's defense 'proves' nothing.
randome
Aug 2013
#151
You'll notice that 'army' is quoted, which is grammatical shorthand for 'so-called'.
randome
Aug 2013
#156
Shouldnt discussions of a mystic Libertarian Army and their conspiracy be relegated to
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#165
Are you asking or telling? I didnt even mention "hosts". I was simply trying to
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#216
Again Speculation - Signals Intelligence Information And Spy Networks And Agent Name Are Not The Same
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#46
so then the phone data collection isn't spying, since it is being done by the NSA? nt
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#50
i know I am calling bullshit on the poster's claim the NSA isn't a spy organization nt
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#72
I Never Stated That The NSA Does Not "Spy" - However, The NSA Does Not "Run" Agent Networks
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#78
Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) and Human Intelligence (HUMINT) Are Quite Different Parts Of "Spying"
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#71
The link in the OP refers to them as "highly classified UK intelligence documents."
randome
Aug 2013
#132
Snowden originally worked for the CIA. Maybe he ultimately is part of the CIA/NSA feud over funding.
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#74
Further evidence that there's only one kind of conspiracy theory allowed in GD.
Democracyinkind
Aug 2013
#27
Snowden worked for the CIA in Geneva and elsewhere. His collection probably goes back
FarCenter
Aug 2013
#51
"Obvious?" How do you know that? You don't. You are guessing and that theory fits
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#55
Those claims were made in legal arguments requesting the permission of the court to review
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#158
they have indeed asked (and I believe received) permission from the court to continue to analyze the
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#167
well I am a computer algorithm persona within a giant NSA mainframe computer
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#59
Because no-one in the real world has said he did 'give up' any intelligence agents
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2013
#245
I really hate to contribute to these flame bait/character assassination posts, but
hueymahl
Aug 2013
#58
The UK Govt. is judging security? The same UK Govt. that allowed all their shit to get stolen? n/t
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
#130
Mr. Greenwald's certainly has, and Ms Poitras is in question, but it remains to be proven.
bemildred
Aug 2013
#92
someone here has suggested the stuff was planted on Miranda's computer.
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#98
Well, he obviously likes his job, so I do expect him to keep at it, as best he can.
bemildred
Aug 2013
#112
He will also issue some sanctimonious tweets as soon as the story starts changing too n/t
sweetloukillbot
Aug 2013
#198
It's alien hoodies that are spying on us! That 'woman' is obviously a plastic manikin!
randome
Aug 2013
#105
They are their own worst enemies so maybe the best thing to do is leave them be.
randome
Aug 2013
#88
So the NSA totally blows off pretty basic data protections, and that's cool, but
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2013
#96
But I notice that the Anti-CT squad has approved this message. They only lock CT that goes against
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#119
Personally I think we are to "CT" paranoid. Obviously some CT gets way crazy, but
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#169
I am disappointed but not surprised at your petty ridicule. Are you here to only
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#173
Why should private contractors have access to this information in the first place?
Snake Plissken
Aug 2013
#122
so that should also apply to Snowden, proof he can hack into Obama's email, etc.,
Whisp
Aug 2013
#164
if he did send Miranda through Heathrow unknowingly carrying an encrypted list of British agents
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#195
so if someone not intrusted with your credit cards got ahold of them and took off to europe
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#153
And when you're talking about people's lives at stake, it's even more important to not take chances.
randome
Aug 2013
#159
yeah, the stakes are much higher than a credit card situation -lives are on the line nt
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#227
if the british can decrypt enough of it to see that the info revealed the identities of their agents
arely staircase
Aug 2013
#187
What do you think he was doing at the Russian consulate with the data?
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#247
It certainly makes the choice of Moscow the destination from Hong Kong curious...
SidDithers
Aug 2013
#180
Detained partner of Guardian journalist was ‘human carrier pigeon’, High Court is told
Whisp
Aug 2013
#213
gay and bisexual men have boyfriends, I know because I am one who does. jeez
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#240