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Showing Original Post only (View all)Bandar Bush to Putin: Be a Real Shame if Something Bad Should Happen to Your Olympics.... [View all]
After reading the exchange posted later in this OP, I'm reminded of this Monty Python skit....
Bandar told Putin, There are many common values and goals that bring us together, most notably the fight against terrorism and extremism all over the world. Russia, the US, the EU and the Saudis agree on promoting and consolidating international peace and security. The terrorist threat is growing in light of the phenomena spawned by the Arab Spring. We have lost some regimes. And what we got in return were terrorist experiences, as evidenced by the experience of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and the extremist groups in Libya. ... As an example, I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics in the city of Sochi on the Black Sea next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us, and they will not move in the Syrian territorys direction without coordinating with us. These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role or influence in Syrias political future.
Putin thanked King Abdullah for his greetings and Bandar for his exposition, but then he said to Bandar, We know that you have supported the Chechen terrorist groups for a decade. And that support, which you have frankly talked about just now, is completely incompatible with the common objectives of fighting global terrorism that you mentioned. We are interested in developing friendly relations according to clear and strong principles.
Bandar said that the matter is not limited to the kingdom and that some countries have overstepped the roles drawn for them, such as Qatar and Turkey. He added, We said so directly to the Qataris and to the Turks. We rejected their unlimited support to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and elsewhere. The Turks role today has become similar to Pakistans role in the Afghan war. We do not favor extremist religious regimes, and we wish to establish moderate regimes in the region. It is worthwhile to pay attention to and to follow up on Egypts experience. We will continue to support the army, and we will support Defense Minister Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi because he is keen on having good relations with us and with you. And we suggest to you to be in contact with him, to support him and to give all the conditions for the success of this experiment. We are ready to hold arms deals with you in exchange for supporting these regimes, especially Egypt.
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Putin: Our stance on Assad will not change
Regarding the Syrian issue, the Russian president responded to Bandar, saying, Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters. During the Geneva I Conference, we agreed with the Americans on a package of understandings, and they agreed that the Syrian regime will be part of any settlement. Later on, they decided to renege on Geneva I. In all meetings of Russian and American experts, we reiterated our position.
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Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politics/2013/08/saudi-russia-putin-bandar-meeting-syria-egypt.html
Putin thanked King Abdullah for his greetings and Bandar for his exposition, but then he said to Bandar, We know that you have supported the Chechen terrorist groups for a decade. And that support, which you have frankly talked about just now, is completely incompatible with the common objectives of fighting global terrorism that you mentioned. We are interested in developing friendly relations according to clear and strong principles.
Bandar said that the matter is not limited to the kingdom and that some countries have overstepped the roles drawn for them, such as Qatar and Turkey. He added, We said so directly to the Qataris and to the Turks. We rejected their unlimited support to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and elsewhere. The Turks role today has become similar to Pakistans role in the Afghan war. We do not favor extremist religious regimes, and we wish to establish moderate regimes in the region. It is worthwhile to pay attention to and to follow up on Egypts experience. We will continue to support the army, and we will support Defense Minister Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi because he is keen on having good relations with us and with you. And we suggest to you to be in contact with him, to support him and to give all the conditions for the success of this experiment. We are ready to hold arms deals with you in exchange for supporting these regimes, especially Egypt.
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Putin: Our stance on Assad will not change
Regarding the Syrian issue, the Russian president responded to Bandar, saying, Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters. During the Geneva I Conference, we agreed with the Americans on a package of understandings, and they agreed that the Syrian regime will be part of any settlement. Later on, they decided to renege on Geneva I. In all meetings of Russian and American experts, we reiterated our position.
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Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politics/2013/08/saudi-russia-putin-bandar-meeting-syria-egypt.html
Now, if this incident is real, it could ONLY happen if the Saudis were confident that the US military has its back, no matter how outrageous the behavior. The Saudis and their al Qaeda goons are out of control. Time to gather what shreds of dignity remains in our national honor and tell Bandar Bush he's on his own if he wants to behave like some low rent Mafia don.
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Bandar Bush to Putin: Be a Real Shame if Something Bad Should Happen to Your Olympics.... [View all]
Junkdrawer
Aug 2013
OP
It's making the rounds in a big way. As I said above, it really needs to be vetted. n/t
Junkdrawer
Aug 2013
#4
Who the fuck are these people? And how "involved" are they in the day-to-day management of this
MADem
Sep 2013
#27
Sounds to me like Bandar was trying to use the carrot and letting Putin know about the stick.
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#7
I was one of the people who figured Bandar paid for some planes to hit buildings way back when.
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#14
Haven't see Spamalot yet....although Mrs. Jundrawer's colleague is playing Author...
Junkdrawer
Aug 2013
#20
Right, let's blame whatever the Saudi's do or say on the U.S. On Obama in particular.
pnwmom
Aug 2013
#23
What you said was, "Now, if this incident is real, it could ONLY happen if the Saudis were confident
pnwmom
Sep 2013
#25
IF this is true, IF/WHEN Obama becomes aware of the incident, IF Obama then does nothing....
Junkdrawer
Sep 2013
#26
Bandar has a reputation for bluntness, but something is "off" about this part of the story
leveymg
Sep 2013
#28