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WillyT

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Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:15 PM Aug 2013

The White House Walk-And-Talk That Changed Obama's Mind On Syria - MSNBC [View all]

The White House Walk-And-Talk That Changed Obama's Mind On Syria
By Chuck Todd, NBC News Chief White House Correspondent
8/31/13

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A stroll around the White House grounds with his top adviser on Friday evening changed President Barack Obama’s mind about getting Congress to sign off on a military strike in Syria, senior White House officials told NBC News.

Obama had been leaning toward attacking Syria without a congressional vote for the past week, the officials said. Obama was convinced he had the evidence to back up a strike and as a result dispatched Secretary of State John Kerry to make a passionate case for U.S. action. But only hours after Kerry called Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "a thug and a murderer" and accused his regime of using chemical weapons to kill 1,429 people, Obama changed his mind as he walked across the South Lawn with Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, the officials said.

Returning from that walk, the president called his advisers in the early evening to inform them of his new decision. The plan was immediately met with robust resistance from a whiplashed Obama team who had listened to Kerry lay out the administration's strongest case yet for action against Assad. "My friends, it matters here if nothing is done," Kerry had argued. "It matters if the world speaks out in condemnation and then nothing happens."

Obama's National Security Council had believed since last weekend that requiring a vote was not even on the table and that “consultation” in the form of congressional briefings and behind-the-scenes conversation was all that would be needed before a strike. One senior official noted that no key leaders in Congress had specifically requested a vote on military intervention.

Officials said that after the president met with national security advisers on Aug. 24, they determined the evidence showed Syria’s Assad regime had used chemical weapons in an attack earlier this month. At that time, the president indicated he was leaning toward a strike.
But a growing number of Congressional members were beginning to question the administration’s strategy by the end of the week. And an NBC News poll released Friday morning showed that nearly 80 percent of Americans agreed that the president should seek approval in advance of taking military action.

Officials said Obama also was influenced by Thursday’s lively debate in the House of Commons, where Prime Minister David Cameron lost a vote in Parliament to authorize participation in an allied strike against Syria. Cameron had been a staunch advocate of military action but was chastened in the wake of the vote. “It is clear to me that the British Parliament, reflecting the views of the British people, does not want to see British military action,” Cameron said. “I get that, and the government will act accordingly.”

While Obama's advisers argued Friday night in private...

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More: http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/31/20273128-the-white-house-walk-and-talk-that-changed-obamas-mind-on-syria?lite

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K n R for an interesting fact to add to the historical record. JimDandy Aug 2013 #1
Make the noise- sometimes the people up top DO hear it! n/t Hydra Aug 2013 #2
This: geek tragedy Aug 2013 #3
Now that this is done, Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #4
God I hope so gopiscrap Aug 2013 #8
This just in: dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #33
If only TPTB were as passionate about punishing war criminals and banksters as they were about indepat Aug 2013 #5
+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #6
+1000 PADemD Aug 2013 #9
Yes but the war criminals and banksters are the gopiscrap Aug 2013 #10
And wonder if any of the war criminals or banksters will profit by yet another war? indepat Aug 2013 #12
of course they do gopiscrap Aug 2013 #13
And this argument should be heard DearAbby Aug 2013 #23
Yup I agree with you! gopiscrap Aug 2013 #24
There is international law Ghost Dog Aug 2013 #22
they're not gonna bite the hands that feed them Skittles Aug 2013 #35
Wow. Where has he left Kerry? JohnnyLib2 Aug 2013 #7
Next to Howard Dean, all used up. Now let's appoint some repugs to the Cabinet. bahrbearian Aug 2013 #21
Meh. Moving on to the next thing. MH1 Aug 2013 #26
Kerry will be on all 5 talks shows tomorrow - for Obama karynnj Aug 2013 #36
It's funny to watch msnbc and count how many times Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #11
+1 proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #19
its true unfortunately iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #29
Bull. proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #32
Chuck Todd is not a reputable reporter neither is NBC a reputable New's Source bahrbearian Aug 2013 #14
I Hear Ya... But... Sometimes A Story Is Offered And One Wants Others To Give Their Analysis... WillyT Aug 2013 #15
I think the Host should have the Option to lock NBC and NY Times Threads, they are not reliable. bahrbearian Aug 2013 #17
NBC is a war profiteer. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #18
Thats Parent company dosen't pay any taxes for war. bahrbearian Aug 2013 #20
Can't stand Rebl Aug 2013 #25
Reuters:Obama's Syria decision: a walk, a debate, and a new approach jakeXT Sep 2013 #47
I would like to know exactly which of his advisors told him to go forward without Congress. TwilightGardener Aug 2013 #16
Stunning that the American President is held in check, ultimately, by UK commoners. libdem4life Aug 2013 #27
Kerry "has no problems" with going to Congress karynnj Aug 2013 #37
Going to Congress is different from making an international statement...it doesn't cut both ways, libdem4life Aug 2013 #38
It was a foregone conclusion that the UN would not back it karynnj Aug 2013 #40
That seems true and is even more depressing. libdem4life Aug 2013 #44
Friday night! Faryn Balyncd Aug 2013 #28
While the British Parliament may reflect the views of the British people dflprincess Aug 2013 #30
That's the truth - nobody represents the people in the U.S.A. polichick Aug 2013 #31
Associated photo. proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #34
They all have on white shirts. One woman and one person of color. Out of 12...Just an observation libdem4life Aug 2013 #39
Well, there's two people of color actually. senseandsensibility Aug 2013 #42
Was that counting our President? I was just looking down the table and it seemed only Holder libdem4life Aug 2013 #43
Yeah I was counting the President. senseandsensibility Aug 2013 #46
In TOTAL agreement. Hulk Aug 2013 #41
"an allied strike against Syria" Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #45
Now if he asks us and the people can get the Congress to say HELL NO... Jasana Sep 2013 #48
k&r Little Star Sep 2013 #49
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