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In reply to the discussion: The propaganda mouthpiece of the oil magnate Dictator in Qatar - Al Jazeera America [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)73. Cautionary tale especially in view of that slippery slope of censoring RT in LBN
My post started out in response to a thread about a host decision to censor RT in LBN, but it was locked by the time I hit post.
People who are knocking RT's excellent and balanced news coverage because it gets funding from the Russian Government, or incorrectly stating it's the mouthpiece of the Kremlin, should be aware of this information because AJE and AJAM are the mouthpiece of Saudi Arabia and Qatar. And BBC World is the mouthpiece of the UK government, the State Dept and Bill Gates.
What matters is the reliability of the news.
Consistency is imperative.
Thanks for your link. It helps explains the change in Al Jazeera. I bookmarked it.
The U.S. Embassy in Doha, and officials from Washington, used a variety of direct and indirect methods of ensuring a greater degree of compliance on the part of Al Jazeera. These methods included placing speakers on Al Jazeera news programs; supplying information approved by the U.S. Government; providing U.S. training for Al Jazeera's journalists; demanding editorial distortion of aired programs; securing Al Jazeera's agreement to check first with U.S. officials before airing "sensitive" programs; monitoring of Al Jazeera in minute detail, ranging from its news coverage to its internal structure and policies; lodging complaints with Qatari government ministers; constant, personal visits to Al Jazeera's headquarters; developing familiarity and close personal contacts with Al Jazeera staff; and going over the head of the Managing Director of Al Jazeera to ensure that "objectionable content" was removed and never repeated.
Mainstreaming, professionalism, balance, and objectivity emerge as the chosen tropes for a journalism that favors U.S. foreign policy. U.S. officials did not overtly threaten Al Jazeera staff, nor did they engage in any crass form of bribery. The intervention was more polite, prolonged, and intimate. In the process of reading these cables we learn that, for the U.S. Government, Al Jazeera was valued as a strategic tool, as a credible proxy for U.S. "public diplomacy." We hear senior Al Jazeera executives describe themselves as "partners" and "assets" of the U.S. We also learn about the degree to which Al Jazeera is controlled by the Qatari state and used as a foreign policy instrument. We witness the degree to which Al Jazeera English is almost entirely a foreign import, not even pretending to speak as the "voice of the Arabs" and operating as a colonial transplant. The picture of Al Jazeera revealed through the cables is a grim one, and it is not likely that Al Jazeera can proceed unscathed.
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Likewise, we must note that the U.S. Embassy told Washington that it was ready to help exploit Al Jazeera's openness "through direct diplomacy with Qatar's ruling family and members of Al Jazeera's Doha headquarters." Elsewhere, Ambassador LeBaron insisted that,
While admitting that Al Jazeera has been great for Qatar's, and the Emir's, international public profile, Khanfar asserted that Al Jazeera did not see itself as part of any reform movement, nor was it the voice of the Arabs.
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http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/forte220911.html
Mainstreaming, professionalism, balance, and objectivity emerge as the chosen tropes for a journalism that favors U.S. foreign policy. U.S. officials did not overtly threaten Al Jazeera staff, nor did they engage in any crass form of bribery. The intervention was more polite, prolonged, and intimate. In the process of reading these cables we learn that, for the U.S. Government, Al Jazeera was valued as a strategic tool, as a credible proxy for U.S. "public diplomacy." We hear senior Al Jazeera executives describe themselves as "partners" and "assets" of the U.S. We also learn about the degree to which Al Jazeera is controlled by the Qatari state and used as a foreign policy instrument. We witness the degree to which Al Jazeera English is almost entirely a foreign import, not even pretending to speak as the "voice of the Arabs" and operating as a colonial transplant. The picture of Al Jazeera revealed through the cables is a grim one, and it is not likely that Al Jazeera can proceed unscathed.
...
Likewise, we must note that the U.S. Embassy told Washington that it was ready to help exploit Al Jazeera's openness "through direct diplomacy with Qatar's ruling family and members of Al Jazeera's Doha headquarters." Elsewhere, Ambassador LeBaron insisted that,
to help improve the USG's image on the Arab street, we need to step up USG senior-level engagement of the Qatari leadership. Better relations with the ruling al-Thani family will translate into changes in al-Jazeera coverage that will gradually help improve the image of the United States in the Arab street.
While admitting that Al Jazeera has been great for Qatar's, and the Emir's, international public profile, Khanfar asserted that Al Jazeera did not see itself as part of any reform movement, nor was it the voice of the Arabs.
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http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/forte220911.html
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The propaganda mouthpiece of the oil magnate Dictator in Qatar - Al Jazeera America [View all]
Catherina
Aug 2013
OP
We need to know the context lest we not understand the players and their motivations.
dkf
Aug 2013
#1
Fuck him, Fuck McCain and that other war hawk who was sent to represent us in the Middle East
Catherina
Aug 2013
#6
Deemed illegetimate by whom? Not by its 630 million viewers in over 100 countries or US millions
Catherina
Aug 2013
#9
So when you can't win war support based on facts, start demonizing and banning news sources
Catherina
Aug 2013
#32
I don't know, the American public seems to think that RT is a very reliable source of news.
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#15
I've only come across a few people here who object to it, most of them have never
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#47
Yes, but it's always the same small group. The truth hurts I suppose and one thing
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#77
Yes, the Corporate Media eg, was rated #54 on the Free Media scale a few years agao for the
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#97
The MSM has no credibility. If RT is the Kremlin's mouthpiece, someone better tell Howard Dean
Catherina
Aug 2013
#110
Yes, I saw that. Howard Dean acknowledged in that excellent interview, where he was
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#114
That's what I love the most about their shows. Guests can speak without interruption
Catherina
Aug 2013
#121
I think it's available on most cable and satellite lineups. We have Dish TV and it is
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#128
This is like a slightly more lucid version of Palin's word salad. Catherina has a sad
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#4
So a tiny fraction of DU gets to censor News sources on DU? That is very disturbing
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#117
What?? I sure hope not. That would truly be unacceptable. It is a fantastic, reliable
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#14
The BBC is a mouthpiece now, it used to not be, but it is now. And our Corporate
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#82
How so? Again, you appear to have no problems with RT being a mouthpiece
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2013
#94
Hrmjsutin is happy to lock RT. When we start banning new outlets then we're just like the Repugs.
bahrbearian
Aug 2013
#44
There's been a unanimous consensus from LBN hosts that RT isn't a reputable source for LBN...
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2013
#50
That you can't see sarcasm when you read it , and now you can Censor the News.
bahrbearian
Aug 2013
#57
No Sarcasm that you could see, Remember when the GOP invited Cobert to Roast Chimpy.
bahrbearian
Aug 2013
#65
She is not in favor of banning any respectable News Source , So I quess you can't see scarcasm.
bahrbearian
Aug 2013
#71
You don't get it, do you? If RT is not a respectable, then American Al Jazeera sure isn't.
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#89
Wait, let's sort this out here. What I'm reading here is the obection to RT is that it is
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#98
I need no hint from you. I think it is YOU who needs to understand that 'ownership
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#104
All I read in the OP was the truth, that al-Jazeera is the mouthpiece of Qatar's "royalty".
delrem
Aug 2013
#91
That same 'argument' could have been made about Al Jazeera from the outset...
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2013
#93
That is such a tiny fraction of the DU community. Considering your inability to answer my
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#131
Well, that is ridiculous. Are the Corporate Media threads being locked as unreliable
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#76
Really? I thought these were community decisions. What about RT news have they
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#79
Well, Rumsfeld and his fellow war criminals used to hate Al Jazeera when it really
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#10
I just looked at the AJ homepage, and I'm not seeing this dictatorial control...
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2013
#34
Al Jazeera exhibited so much propagandistic bias over Libya that it caused a huge
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#142
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but its still better than FOX or CNN and it beats the hell ....
1-Old-Man
Aug 2013
#19
I'm curious. Why doesn't RT being a mouthpiece of the Russian government bother you?
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2013
#58
Then you are not familiar with the media and please don't try to use 'left' issues
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#81
You're veering off course here. What I am trying to establish is what constitutes a
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#112
No, government control of editorial content is the crux of the matter for me...
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2013
#113
LBN is not about edictorial content. You are shifting the goal posts. We are talking about
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#119
I didn't say it was. Are you just ignoring the government control thing?
Violet_Crumble
Aug 2013
#120
You introduced yourself as a host of LBN. I asked about an issue brought up in this
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#134
I mentioned when I asked Catherina those still unanswered questions that I was a new LBN host...
Violet_Crumble
Sep 2013
#137
It's propaganda war time, hence increased censorship of anything weakening the propaganda
Catherina
Aug 2013
#59
They'll do good work on issues that don't conflict with the Emir's pocketbook or Saudi Arabia's
Catherina
Aug 2013
#69
That is false statement about DUers and you should apologize right now for making it.
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#136
I think what you have assembled here and I may be wrong, but it seemed clear to me
Jefferson23
Aug 2013
#61
Cautionary tale especially in view of that slippery slope of censoring RT in LBN
Catherina
Aug 2013
#73
I haven't seen any bias but I am independently minded enough to ignore any propaganda if it
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#63
I'm not sure who, without a financial stake in something, would have the means to fund a news org.
Liberal Veteran
Aug 2013
#95
Today's Freedom Fighter is Tomorrow's Terrorist who then becomes the Freedom Fighter who
libdem4life
Aug 2013
#107