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In reply to the discussion: Pres. Obama: Why are you pushing the Koch Supported Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)? [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)69. So what if both parties have problems? I don't deny THAT, not at all.
Doesn't disprove what I said, though, not in the least.
The good cop bad cop show is for the people, so they can feel good about continuing to vote, thinking it actually makes a difference.
This is, undoubtedly, what they want us to think. Apathy is their best friend, and we had to learn this the hard way back in the '60s when LBJ lost to Nixon(sure, many of the youngsters were out on the streets for the Dems, but guess who won anyway?).
They needed a Dem because that's the only way that they could not have liberals up in arms, moderates as well. People felt so relieved that a Dem, and an extremely charming, educated and articulate Dem who they felt they could trust and depend on, after whose election they breathed a sigh of relief about, that they got complacent. They just believed that with Obama in office it was going to be okay. And that's the perfect scenario for TPTB to start implementing what they want.
Again, here's the problem with this: they actively TRIED to steal the 2012 elections, not just through outright fraud but with voter suppression and other tactics. And if it hadn't been for the dedicated push, and the fact that someone actively interfered with said election theft attempts, we might be discussing President Romney today. When you look at all the evidence, it's not hard to come to the conclusion that I have: They didn't want Obama to win another term and now they're doubling down on the damage control and contingency plans, since Plan A failed so badly.
We may have a long way to go, but we're far from doomed, as of yet. And frankly, much of this NSA hoo-hah ended up being used more of a distraction, anyhow.....and sadly, it looks like the same thing may have been true for the economic issues as well; where they've been trying to hit us the hardest, is really on the social front, and if we were to ever lose that battle, then we'd run a truly great risk of losing the war as a whole. On the up side, if we *win* on that front, then our other battles will be easier to fight.
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Pres. Obama: Why are you pushing the Koch Supported Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)? [View all]
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
OP
I'm not convinced of that. Remember when their henchman Rove threw a huge hissy fit last year?
AverageJoe90
Aug 2013
#40
Yes and I agree. They were only going to give Obama 4 years. Point taken. nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#41
"They" controlled both candidates so they were not worried. "They" also control most
Dustlawyer
Aug 2013
#57
"maybe the people who really run things didn't want a Romney win." I'm sorry. But No. Just no.
AverageJoe90
Aug 2013
#65
Rove is just a workhorse. He is not even liked by Bush Sr. 'They' are way above the likes
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#70
I dont disagree. What I said was TPTB figured after Obama, the country would accept a Republican in
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#48
What we will find is that the one that wins will appoint (?) the same intelligence leaders, the
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#62
True. They did actively try to steal 2012. Perhaps there's 2 levels of "they".
cui bono
Sep 2013
#75
It looks like launching disastrous treaties for American workers run in the Clinton family blood.
avaistheone1
Aug 2013
#13
I wish that were possible. We are a small minority. There are lots of DU'ers that will
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#42
At one point, I actually believed they were serious. Now, Congress Inside Trades on a Daily Basis.
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
#58
Next time, let's vet our candidates for high office a bit first, okay???
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2013
#15
The same reason he is trying to abolish public ed through his flak Arne Duncan.
duffyduff
Aug 2013
#39