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(37,626 posts) Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:57 AM Sep 2013

Homemade canisters and sarin gas without stabilizers?? [View all]

Anyone see UP with Steve Kornacki today? A female guest who worked in both Bush and Clinton administrations (not a political appointee) said that the canisters found in Syria were homemade, not the type any country's military uses, and that the sarin was without the stabilizers you'd expect.

She said that Chinese and Russian inspectors are still on the ground there, but that none of this info (re canisters and non-stabilized sarin) is being reported here in the U.S.

She also said that during the run up to Iraq she was in the room when Clinton approved of the plan, saying the evidence was good - suggesting that both Republicans and Dems are fine with "evidence" that isn't actually evidence. She also suggested that the homemade canisters and type of sarin makes her think of al Qaeda.

A riveting guest I thought. Did anyone see her and get her name? Couldn't find it online yet.

On edit: It was Hillary Mann Leverett (thanks to BigDarryl)
Edit 2: typo
Edit 3: About Hillary Mann Leverett: http://www.american.edu/sis/faculty/leverett.cfm

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Homemade canisters and sarin gas without stabilizers?? [View all] polichick Sep 2013 OP

I hope someone answers you or you eventually find it online. I'm curious. Little Star Sep 2013 #1

Me too. I was so fascinated by what she was saying I didn't think to read her name... polichick Sep 2013 #2

It was Hillary Mann Leverett (just edited my post) polichick Sep 2013 #4

Here are some of those devices - they do look homemade and incapable of flying 5-10 miles to target. leveymg Sep 2013 #63

Yes, that looks homemade. As far as the map goes, I'd rather see something... polichick Sep 2013 #66

You have those shapes available at home? aquart Sep 2013 #77

The weapons inspectors might know more about weapons that were used in the Syrian lumpy Sep 2013 #68

Here's a photo (Daily Mail) of a UN inspector with the same type of rocket: leveymg Sep 2013 #76

Interesting. DirkGently Sep 2013 #3

I agree, just another scam (maybe because of the Syrian pipeline?)... polichick Sep 2013 #5

Bingo! ..... Little Star Sep 2013 #9

Thanks! I had been looking for that thread. polichick Sep 2013 #11

The war justification is a scam, yes it is....... Little Star Sep 2013 #6

Think it through. Igel Sep 2013 #52

Sorry, I don't think many people here are thinking anything through re. Syria lumpy Sep 2013 #70

+1 Little Star Sep 2013 #82

She is a Harvard Law grad so I am surprised that DURHAM D Sep 2013 #7

She mentioned that some on his team have been interested in Syria for a long time. polichick Sep 2013 #16

was this the report of sarin canisters found in Turkey? TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #8

Yep! Woosh & gone. Little Star Sep 2013 #10

I noticed that whoosh & gone happened right when the US TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #14

True. And now you can mostly only find it on RW sites.... Little Star Sep 2013 #20

She was talking about the canisters used in Syria. polichick Sep 2013 #13

Which likely had a connection to the worst of the rebels TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #17

Yes, that seemed to be one of her big concerns... polichick Sep 2013 #19

and here we are again TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #25

So now we know she's a responsibility-dodging liar. aquart Sep 2013 #78

Every time I bring that up Aerows Sep 2013 #51

In what capacity would she have info regarding the canisters used in Syria ? lumpy Sep 2013 #56

As I understand it, she was referring to reporting overseas that's not making it here. polichick Sep 2013 #58

It would be interesting to know her sources. lumpy Sep 2013 #72

This is the dissenting side of the internal USG struggle TomClash Sep 2013 #12

Well, then I'm with her - since the neocons are all about bogus evidence... polichick Sep 2013 #15

No question about that TomClash Sep 2013 #18

So how is Obama involved with them?... polichick Sep 2013 #22

he'd have to be the biggest idiot in the world TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #26

That's what I can't get around. I've met him; he's no dummy... polichick Sep 2013 #28

Republican and Democratic neocons are pretty much the same, yes they are. Little Star Sep 2013 #21

I would so like to know how Obama fits in with these guys. polichick Sep 2013 #23

I think forced in by TPTB is more like it. JMHO...... Little Star Sep 2013 #24

I've met both Obama and Kerry and liked them... polichick Sep 2013 #29

That's where I'm at. Little Star Sep 2013 #31

Whoa! Arctic Dave Sep 2013 #27

"fabricating another war" - that's what she seemed to be implying. polichick Sep 2013 #30

War is easy to 'fabricate' when the people in charge of a country are guilty of atrocity against lumpy Sep 2013 #74

Shhhhhh. obxhead Sep 2013 #32

Apparently they think we're all children who don't need to know... polichick Sep 2013 #35

Who does Leverett work for now? aquart Sep 2013 #33

American University... polichick Sep 2013 #34

well if this turns out to be true and the story does get coverage - a whole lot of people are going Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #36

Russia and China have a voice. This WILL get vetted at the UN. Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #38

But Agent Mike has said that we should not read RT news anymore for our own good. L0oniX Sep 2013 #71

I'll believe it if it's in the UN report. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #37

Let's hope the prez waits for that report. polichick Sep 2013 #43

wasn't there some report the other day that the rebels admitted they were mishandling the chemical niyad Sep 2013 #39

Here's one of several threads that have been locked: polichick Sep 2013 #41

Did anyone post the original article from Mint Press News? Maedhros Sep 2013 #44

Don't know, but feel free to add it here. polichick Sep 2013 #45

Here is the original article that was referenced by a number of blogs: Maedhros Sep 2013 #46

Thank-you for all this - it deserves its own thread imo... polichick Sep 2013 #47

Done. Maedhros Sep 2013 #48

Great! k&r'd polichick Sep 2013 #49

The thread you referred to got locked because it was in LBN w/o a decent source. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #80

Conflicting reports re.this. Some say the rebels admit the gas attack. Some say the rebels lumpy Sep 2013 #75

This is a very interesting report and Ms Leverett BlueMTexpat Sep 2013 #40

It was Bill - and her point was that he didn't have a problem with the "evidence"... polichick Sep 2013 #42

In what capacity was Bill Clinton "in the room" regarding the runup to Iraq conversation ? lumpy Sep 2013 #64

Ms. Leverett was "in the room" when Clinton was told about the evidence... polichick Sep 2013 #65

The information is so sketchy, hard to make head nor tails out of it. lumpy Sep 2013 #50

The Clinton part is explained just above your post... polichick Sep 2013 #53

Chinese & Russian inspectors have huge conflict of interest. Their governments support Assad bigtime Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #54

Problem is they all have conflicts of interest - including the U.S. polichick Sep 2013 #59

I'm not sure I'd trust the reports of "Chinese and Russian inspectors" Spider Jerusalem Sep 2013 #55

I wouldn't trust theirs or ours - hopefully the prez will wait for a UN report. polichick Sep 2013 #60

It's a personal belief that al Qaeda is a triumph of propaganda. PDJane Sep 2013 #57

Agreed - I've been talking about a "propaganda war" since high school Amer. Hist. class... polichick Sep 2013 #62

We're not getting the answers to anything, just a heap of propaganda from several sources lumpy Sep 2013 #67

This BBC documentary details how the last 40 years or so got us here KurtNYC Sep 2013 #69

Fascinating. FEAR is a easiest way to control people and politicians sure needed... polichick Sep 2013 #73

I have that on DVD. It's fascinating. Autumn Sep 2013 #88

Sarin gas was invented in 1938 FarCenter Sep 2013 #79

The answer is that the gas can be made fairly easily, but it isn't as simple as all that. PDJane Sep 2013 #84

Unlike nuclear weapons, its well within the capability of most nation states, e.g. Saudi Arabia FarCenter Sep 2013 #86

Again, yes and no. PDJane Sep 2013 #87

Huh. AzDar Sep 2013 #61

here is the video link magical thyme Sep 2013 #81

Excellent - thanks! polichick Sep 2013 #83

Her evidence is Chinese and Russian inspectors. Yavin4 Sep 2013 #85

Unfortunately, our officials aren't above board either. polichick Sep 2013 #91

Does that make her sources reliable? Yavin4 Sep 2013 #92

Who knows? Are "our" sources reliable this time? polichick Sep 2013 #93

And here's the embedded youtube Catherina Sep 2013 #89

Thanks! I wonder if she'll be a guest in the coming days, or if... polichick Sep 2013 #90