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Donald Ian Rankin

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23. I disagree. Statutory rape is *not* always morally rape.

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 04:05 AM

Sep 2013

An adult having sex with a 14-year-old *is* rape.

But in some jurisdictions the age of consent is 18. And to classify two 17-year-olds experimenting together, or even a 19-year-old having consensual sex with a 17-year-old, as rape, is misleading, I think. Usually there are "Romeo and Juliet" exceptions to those laws, but they're not always perfect.

All nonconsensual sex is rape morally as well as legally, without any exceptions whatsoever.
Most statutory rape, including this case, is rape morally as well as legally, but some isn't.

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Melissa Harris-Perry: "Rape is rape. Full stop." [View all] UrbScotty Sep 2013 OP

That Judge's previous decisions should be reviewed. Downwinder Sep 2013 #1

and, just possibly, he should spend some time behind bars. niyad Sep 2013 #2

If misogyny rises to a criminal level. Downwinder Sep 2013 #3

None of these judges did time behind bars for their decisions davidn3600 Sep 2013 #11

you seem to be implying that there are as many female as male rapists. niyad Sep 2013 #13

I think he was just trying not to be appear partial to one gender over the other regarding the crime Oakenshield Sep 2013 #14

except there are not an equal number of male and female rapists niyad Sep 2013 #15

Not at all. There are many more male rapists, along with pretty much all other violent crimes davidn3600 Sep 2013 #17

Rape is rape. salin Sep 2013 #19

Where in the world did you see... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #26

Agreed. nt sheshe2 Sep 2013 #12

Yes, this judge is crap on a whole lotta other issues... alp227 Sep 2013 #5

I would bet that you would find some very strange family law decisions. Downwinder Sep 2013 #8

This judge is a sick, ugly fuck...he needs to be retired NOW... CTyankee Sep 2013 #4

MH-P K&R nt alp227 Sep 2013 #6

What deeply bothers me DearAbby Sep 2013 #7

The Judge's line of reasoning is a little too Jerry Sandusky-esque for my taste Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #9

Should the "forcible rape" issue be a factor at all? Jim Lane Sep 2013 #10

Rape is rape! chervilant Sep 2013 #24

I stand by what I said about sentencing. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #42

do you understand the concept that a 14 yr old does not have the ability or the experience seabeyond Sep 2013 #43

Indeed I do, as I thought my post made clear. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #50

yes. the thing... seabeyond Sep 2013 #51

I'm still not clear about your position. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #53

post 58 below. i answered this post on you post 10. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #59

Of course, you do. chervilant Sep 2013 #62

i am listening to men tell us there is a difference with a lolita havin seabeyond Sep 2013 #45

If the "he" in your title means me, you're wrong. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #52

after reading your last post to me i edited it. you must have been reading and replying seabeyond Sep 2013 #54

Thanks for the clarification. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #63

Have you read "The Best Kept Secret" by chervilant Sep 2013 #60

holy cow.... lol. this. exactly this. sigh... yes. thank you. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #61

"propositioned" by a child? alphafemale Sep 2013 #25

and a 14 yr old child who committed murder should be tried as an adult? do we progressives believe seabeyond Sep 2013 #34

i think this is exactly the problem we have. seabeyond Sep 2013 #58

You should have said what happened David Krout Sep 2013 #16

I will assume you really haven't heard of the case. salin Sep 2013 #18

Your description of this crime chervilant Sep 2013 #22

I appologize salin Sep 2013 #27

Thank you chervilant Sep 2013 #35

I can not even begin to imagine salin Sep 2013 #40

And she committed suicide just before liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #28

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #31

Your attitude is part of the problem. chervilant Sep 2013 #33

not mere adult a fucking 50 yr old man.... abused his position and power with a 14 yr old child. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #36

reading the linked article would have given you the information you requested. niyad Sep 2013 #20

Unfortunately, we have some here that share that attitude.... hlthe2b Sep 2013 #21

Hmmm, maybe the jury results should tell you something. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #30

And YOU are defending raping a 14 year old. Enough said. hlthe2b Sep 2013 #32

so the only way it is "true" rape is IF a woman is black and blue, maybe dead, seabeyond Sep 2013 #41

that thread. we are also suppose to have EMPATHY for the rapist and HELP him. seabeyond Sep 2013 #37

I disagree. Statutory rape is *not* always morally rape. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #23

It is dishonest and simplistic to just say "rape is rape." Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #29

an OLD man with authority over a CHILD. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #38

i betcha a father could use manipulation, authority over his kids to fuck them, and get them to say, seabeyond Sep 2013 #39

Kaitlyn Hunt case davidn3600 Sep 2013 #46

ah you have a real issue talking about a very real girl/woman issue, dontcha? some would say.... seabeyond Sep 2013 #47

No issue at all... davidn3600 Sep 2013 #48

when you tell me that a true feminist would have empathy with the rapist, ya..... seabeyond Sep 2013 #49

She killed herself. Cerridwen Sep 2013 #55

Eagle Colorado Supersedeas Sep 2013 #56

No it isn't ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #57

It is a sad day to lose another child. n/t mstinamotorcity2 Sep 2013 #44