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In reply to the discussion: What I like to tell my RW friends regarding their "working HARDER to EARN a better wage" chestnut - [View all]HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)71. How sad is it that literally one of his FIRST actions in his FIRST year . . .
. . . was the one that set the tone for labor's progress and corporate America's wholesale quashing of that progress for the next 33 years?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Air_Traffic_Controllers_Organization_(1968)
Michael Moore said that Reagan's firing of the PATCO strikers was the beginning of "America's downward slide", and the end of comfortable union jobs, with a middle-class salary, raises, and pensions. Moore stated that wages have remained stagnant for 30 years. He also blamed the AFL-CIO for telling their members to cross the PATCO picket lines.
President Reagan's director of the United States Office of Personnel Management at the time, Donald J. Devine, argued that "when the president said no...American business leaders were given a lesson in managerial leadership that they could not and did not ignore. Many private sector executives have told me that they were able to cut the fat from their organizations and adopt more competitive work practices because of what the government did in those days. I would not be surprised if these unseen effects of this private sector shakeout under the inspiration of the president were as profound in influencing the recovery that occurred as the formal economic and fiscal programs."
In 2011, Oxford University Press published Joseph McCartin's book, "Collision Course: Ronald Reagan, The Air Traffic Controllers, and the Strike that Changed America". Reviewing the book in Review 31, Richard Sharpe claimed Reagan was "laying down a marker" for his presidency: "The strikers were often working class men and women who had achieved suburban middle class lives as air traffic controllers without having gone to college. Many were veterans of the US armed forces where they had learned their skills; their union had backed Reagan in his election campaign. Nevertheless, Reagan refused to back down. Several strikers were jailed; the union was fined and eventually made bankrupt. Only about 800 got their jobs back when Clinton lifted the ban on rehiring those who had struck. Many of the strikers were forced into poverty as a result of being blacklisted for employment."
President Reagan's director of the United States Office of Personnel Management at the time, Donald J. Devine, argued that "when the president said no...American business leaders were given a lesson in managerial leadership that they could not and did not ignore. Many private sector executives have told me that they were able to cut the fat from their organizations and adopt more competitive work practices because of what the government did in those days. I would not be surprised if these unseen effects of this private sector shakeout under the inspiration of the president were as profound in influencing the recovery that occurred as the formal economic and fiscal programs."
In 2011, Oxford University Press published Joseph McCartin's book, "Collision Course: Ronald Reagan, The Air Traffic Controllers, and the Strike that Changed America". Reviewing the book in Review 31, Richard Sharpe claimed Reagan was "laying down a marker" for his presidency: "The strikers were often working class men and women who had achieved suburban middle class lives as air traffic controllers without having gone to college. Many were veterans of the US armed forces where they had learned their skills; their union had backed Reagan in his election campaign. Nevertheless, Reagan refused to back down. Several strikers were jailed; the union was fined and eventually made bankrupt. Only about 800 got their jobs back when Clinton lifted the ban on rehiring those who had struck. Many of the strikers were forced into poverty as a result of being blacklisted for employment."
Oh, and to top himself . . . the following year, he signed the Garn/St Germain bill, which relaxed FDR-era limits on thrifts and sent banksters and speculators on their 80s financial/real estate piracy, setting a precedent in the form of taking a big black axe to the savings and well being of seniors and workers. The S & L Crisis of the 80s happened in no small part due to this horrible piece of legislation. All part of the Reagan-fused "Great Risk Shift" which continues unabated to this day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garn_-_St_Germain_Depository_Institutions_Act
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What I like to tell my RW friends regarding their "working HARDER to EARN a better wage" chestnut - [View all]
HughBeaumont
Sep 2013
OP
How sad is it that literally one of his FIRST actions in his FIRST year . . .
HughBeaumont
Sep 2013
#71
What gets me is when they say giving lower classes more money will raise prices for the poor.
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2013
#11
You just described my in-laws. Enjoying their pensions while voting Republican.
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#16
I even see this from some unionized coworkers who've since retired. "I got mine" selfish jerks
Populist_Prole
Sep 2013
#100
While health care and social issues are finally progressing (albeit glacially) . . .
HughBeaumont
Sep 2013
#18
The poor are still poor with Obamacare. An insurance mandate does not pay the light bill.
Skeeter Barnes
Sep 2013
#47
The taxes are on profit, as you say, so the incentive is to put the money back into the company.
cui bono
Sep 2013
#119
I absolutely am not pivoting. You changed the conversation from workers to stockholders.
cui bono
Sep 2013
#121
The problem with "stockholders can just sell their shares if they're not happy about CEO pay"
wickerwoman
Sep 2013
#123
I'm not going to spend my time arguing with you, but I'd like to point something out:
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2013
#128
Easy. My parents weren't wealthy and I'm not that supremely determined to step on anyone for wealth.
HughBeaumont
Sep 2013
#107
Nor were ANY of them "Self-made millionaires". Not ONE. Google is YOUR friend.
HughBeaumont
Sep 2013
#131
I used to work in a factory with a woman who had been there for 23 years.
Skeeter Barnes
Sep 2013
#22
Exactly. Wages sank while the productivity of American workers has risen steadily.
Skeeter Barnes
Sep 2013
#45
No, she was aware she was making chump change and she didn't appreciate it.
Skeeter Barnes
Sep 2013
#46
k and r-- it saddens me that even some people who are not rwnj's can fall for the bs coming from
niyad
Sep 2013
#32
they seem to want to blame the little guys beneath their rung in society for being somehow slackers
CTyankee
Sep 2013
#66
Hang on, help is on the way! You'll get those new shoes, and have money to spare! lol
reformist2
Sep 2013
#92
they're pretending it's the 50s or 70s, where the economy was managed and unionized
MisterP
Sep 2013
#98
Oh, it's worked exactly as planned, and the useful idiots fall for it like they do Twinkies.
HughBeaumont
Sep 2013
#113
Excellent OP - U.S. Needs To Borrow Scandanavian Model To Improve Economic Equity
drgoodword
Sep 2013
#122