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In reply to the discussion: This Modern World: And Away We Go -- - Nothing Says "We Care" Like A Tomahawk Missile Strike [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)75. You know, I was accused of "supporting Saddam" in 2003, too.
So this shit:
Enjoy Basahr Al-Assad's next nerve gas massacre. You own it.
Neither bothers me nor strengthens your case.
My first point is that hammering Syria with missiles - whether it's a handful or a hundred handfulls - is not a moral action. Not because it will have no effect - in fact that's the best we can hope for - but because it's far more likely to have a very detrimental effect.
There's seven factions fighting in Syria right now. Taking down the strongest of the seven isn't going to stop the fighting, it's going to prolong it. That's how this stuff works. Prolonged fighting, of course, means more people dying. It also means the existing factions are more likely to keep fragmenting, which is another factor in prolonging the conflict.
It's also likely that many of these factions will take the occasion of our missile attacks to step up their own fighting - whether it's the opposition groups taking advantage of damage to the government's power, or the government using what it has while it has it... again, more dead people.
As I mentioned, damaging Assad's ability to use conventional methods of warfare is simply going to make him lean more on unconventional methods - 'cause I can tell you, he's not going to be conceding this fight.
Several opposition groups, as well as Iran, have made the claim that they will use these attacks on Syria as a pretext to attack American interests in the region, particularly within Israel and Iraq. While I suspect iran is blowing out its ass, I have no doubts the mujahadeen will do their best to carry through exactly as they say, or at least make the attempt. Again, more dead people - and his time likely to draw in other nations, more than they already are.
All this, so we could "send a message."
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This Modern World: And Away We Go -- - Nothing Says "We Care" Like A Tomahawk Missile Strike [View all]
kpete
Sep 2013
OP
Well, I'm talking about European countries, Latin American countries, Australia, India, iow,
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#91
I agree, Scootaloo, but fear most Americans aren't hearing any of these arguments
drynberg
Sep 2013
#74
Even a short action could inflict substantial losses to the Assad government's
cheapdate
Sep 2013
#51
Yes, we will be killing "little people" to show that killing "little people"
WHEN CRABS ROAR
Sep 2013
#62
Paragons of Virtue? I don't find any evidence of moral-authority there.
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#86
Perhaps Familiarity With Bush's Support For the Jihadis in Libya Since 2007 Is More Persuasive?
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#115
Did George W. Bush cause millions of Syrians to stage nationwide demonstrations
cheapdate
Sep 2013
#116
Also add in the rationale for ever more surveillance and extra justification for the alphabet
suffragette
Sep 2013
#18
. . . but hey, at least Chuckles isn't a member of the "Batshit Insane" party, right?
HughBeaumont
Sep 2013
#7
We should be amazed we live in an age where this thinking is now mainstream!
reformist2
Sep 2013
#11
Rulers NEVER Care about "The Troops" - Kissinger: "... dumb, stupid animals to be used"
HumansAndResources
Sep 2013
#89