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WHEN CRABS ROAR

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77. Been involved in the movements since civil rights.

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 07:26 PM

Sep 2013

The people don't realize that they already have the power if they use it correctly like voting with their dollars and a lot of other tactics.

I once stood on a busy San Diego corner with a sign that read,

HONK
IF BUSH
LIED

the noise was unbelievable, people were coming out of stores to see what was going on.
People flashing the V-sign, people shouting in support and even a city fire truck blasting the horn.

What would this look like on a national level?

HONK
NO WAR
IN SIRIA

What would it sound like?

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This Modern World: And Away We Go -- - Nothing Says "We Care" Like A Tomahawk Missile Strike [View all] kpete Sep 2013 OP

Spot ON! nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #1

It shows that Obama is SERIOUS! Leaders must listen to what he says! n2doc Sep 2013 #2

Don't you mean RoccoR5955 Sep 2013 #10

I always wondered about that 'leader of the free world' thing. Do they know sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #13

"Free Countries"?? Oh, The Ones Supporting Death Squads HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #82

Well, I'm talking about European countries, Latin American countries, Australia, India, iow, sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #91

From my perspective, if it's true that Bashar Al-Assad used nerve gas cheapdate Sep 2013 #17

What message is that? n2doc Sep 2013 #22

It doesn't pass the smell test. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #30

The message would be that there will be a significant price to pay cheapdate Sep 2013 #47

So, we weaken Assad, and strengthen Al Qaida? n2doc Sep 2013 #49

Russian CW? Or Saudi Arabian? HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #83

You laid out the pros and cons very well lyonn Sep 2013 #23

There are no pros. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #45

Do you think that using nerve agents on populated areas cheapdate Sep 2013 #48

Violence begets violence n2doc Sep 2013 #50

I believe there is much more going on along cheapdate Sep 2013 #54

So the purpose is to basically masturbate our sense of self-righteousness? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #52

That's an outrageously cynical way to frame cheapdate Sep 2013 #58

I don't think you understand the concept of morals. Scootaloo Sep 2013 #64

We agree that for the sake of argument cheapdate Sep 2013 #71

You know, I was accused of "supporting Saddam" in 2003, too. Scootaloo Sep 2013 #75

I agree with most all of your points cheapdate Sep 2013 #109

Well, here's the thing... Scootaloo Sep 2013 #110

I agree, Scootaloo, but fear most Americans aren't hearing any of these arguments drynberg Sep 2013 #74

We have learned from the past that anything can be staged! juajen Sep 2013 #55

I don't have any doubt that there was a release of nerve gas cheapdate Sep 2013 #59

Yep, but we are the "shoot and ask questions later" bandits juajen Sep 2013 #53

NO,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #27

Who will the cruise missile target? Assad? me b zola Sep 2013 #44

Even a short action could inflict substantial losses to the Assad government's cheapdate Sep 2013 #51

Yes, we will be killing "little people" to show that killing "little people" WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #62

How many innocent civilians should die so he can be delivered his message? Marrah_G Sep 2013 #70

There is no crystal ball. cheapdate Sep 2013 #72

I have a question about that rpannier Sep 2013 #78

Yes, dead is dead. cheapdate Sep 2013 #80

"free world(tm)"? Ocelot Sep 2013 #19

What about the following part? lark Sep 2013 #43

France might. Maybe. Israel would rather let us do the hard stuff. n2doc Sep 2013 #46

Have heard nothing affirmative about France taking part. lark Sep 2013 #103

Not true. Many countries in the region are pushing for action, cheapdate Sep 2013 #61

Paragons of Virtue? I don't find any evidence of moral-authority there. HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #86

Yes, no one's hands are clean. cheapdate Sep 2013 #87

Is it definite that the Syrian government is responsible? deutsey Sep 2013 #95

That would, of course, depend on who you ask. cheapdate Sep 2013 #104

That's my understanding as well deutsey Sep 2013 #111

Many of the Earlier CW Reports were Blamed on the Rebels HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #113

Assad was fighting the rebels in areas cheapdate Sep 2013 #114

Perhaps Familiarity With Bush's Support For the Jihadis in Libya Since 2007 Is More Persuasive? HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #115

Did George W. Bush cause millions of Syrians to stage nationwide demonstrations cheapdate Sep 2013 #116

Are they supporting action materially? lark Sep 2013 #102

I've heard variously that some are and some aren't. cheapdate Sep 2013 #108

Couldn't have said it better. mbperrin Sep 2013 #3

The NEW "Care Packages!" Mark our Rockets and Bombs with that Logo. n/t KoKo Sep 2013 #4

Almost like the US was just looking for a reason to bomb Syria. valerief Sep 2013 #5

Ya think? RC Sep 2013 #12

Took the words right out of my mouth. nt valerief Sep 2013 #14

Yeah, have to pay for important things first.... daleanime Sep 2013 #16

Also add in the rationale for ever more surveillance and extra justification for the alphabet suffragette Sep 2013 #18

that'll leave a mark. KG Sep 2013 #6

. . . but hey, at least Chuckles isn't a member of the "Batshit Insane" party, right? HughBeaumont Sep 2013 #7

who writes the rules to this game, anyway? Supersedeas Sep 2013 #85

Great post! K&R Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #8

"So would a Facebook, with fewer casualties." 99Forever Sep 2013 #9

We should be amazed we live in an age where this thinking is now mainstream! reformist2 Sep 2013 #11

The medium is the message, I guess. nt valerief Sep 2013 #15

sob! admit it made me laugh. oldandhappy Sep 2013 #20

Basically just a glib gloss. gulliver Sep 2013 #21

Really? How's the drug war going? nt Union Scribe Sep 2013 #25

Another glib gloss. nt gulliver Sep 2013 #26

An inconvenient question Bradical79 Sep 2013 #34

The defense rests. nt gulliver Sep 2013 #35

sure Bradical79 Sep 2013 #37

What?!? chervilant Sep 2013 #29

Think context. gulliver Sep 2013 #31

"Blah, blah, blah, Ginger, blah, blah, blah..." chervilant Sep 2013 #38

In that case I guess we should have lobbed a few into Wall Street. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #32

We should have bombed the BeeJeezus out of BP Vanje Sep 2013 #42

like when we punished saddam? frylock Sep 2013 #39

This is different. gulliver Sep 2013 #40

I have a question about that. ChaoticTrilby Sep 2013 #68

Rulers NEVER Care about "The Troops" - Kissinger: "... dumb, stupid animals to be used" HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #89

Of course. ChaoticTrilby Sep 2013 #112

Maybe the least informative posts I have seen this week. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #84

Surreal. pecwae Sep 2013 #93

K&R MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #24

And delivered by a Nobel Peace Prize recipient. Graybeard Sep 2013 #28

I think I'll join you. nt ChaoticTrilby Sep 2013 #69

The Nobel commitee was punked :( Marrah_G Sep 2013 #73

He must be reading DU nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #33

Cause nothing says "moral authority" like indiscriminate missile strikes. DirkGently Sep 2013 #36

does any1 know questionseverything Sep 2013 #41

Cost for a Tomahwak Deacon Blue Sep 2013 #88

Good lord... deutsey Sep 2013 #96

ggod cartoon and thought provoking gopiscrap Sep 2013 #56

OMG!! Tom T hits it out of the freaking park, AGAIN!! K&R ~nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #57

Right on. felix_numinous Sep 2013 #60

"Our opinions mean NOTHING to them" and there you have it. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #65

Yes felix_numinous Sep 2013 #66

Been involved in the movements since civil rights. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #77

K&R DeSwiss Sep 2013 #63

K&R NealK Sep 2013 #67

K&R idwiyo Sep 2013 #76

If Obama sends a strongly worded Facebook post ... Martin Eden Sep 2013 #79

In all seriousness . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #81

Yup. It could really backfire. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #92

It will never stop there. McCain was chirruping excitedly DirkGently Sep 2013 #99

He most likely gets a campaign contribution . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #105

He doesn't meet many ME countries he doesn't want DirkGently Sep 2013 #106

Most decidedly. another_liberal Sep 2013 #107

Something just occurred to me about the old "Iraq sent their chem weapons to Syria" line. Marr Sep 2013 #90

Taking out planes that would deliver chemical attacks does say we care michigandem58 Sep 2013 #94

Unless you lived near the planes. morningfog Sep 2013 #97

Perfect isn't an option michigandem58 Sep 2013 #100

So, we could kill, what, 1490 and they should thank us? morningfog Sep 2013 #101

Except that planes didn't deliver the chemical weapons. bullwinkle428 Sep 2013 #98