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TreasonousBastard

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16. The "bad" ones are the doctrinaire ones who have all the answers...
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:55 PM
Sep 2013

and are never wrong-- in their own minds.

I posted a few days ago about Quaker angst over nonviolence and how it is so difficult for us to put our faith and convictions into action in the real world. Needless to say, that thread sank like a stone.

I see things in the world that revolt me, and not just in the Middle East. Gangs running Ecuador, blood diamonds, white slavery, female genital mutilation, Janjaweed in Sudan, the calls for revenge and death from it seems every quarter... it goes on.

The list seems endless and there is that part of me that cannot stand by and watch any more than I can stand by and watch a woman raped in the subway or an old man mugged in a parking lot.

But I am personally powerless, and even if I had God-like powers to end the misery, who's to say the cure would not be worse than the disease? Look at Iraq today and tell me the average Iraqi is better off than before we got rid of Saddam.

With Syria, Assad shows no inclination toward civilized behavior, but the revolutionary groups will happily throw out their present truce and kill each other off to gain power when Assad finally goes. The bloodshed could then be incredible.

Unfortunately, we tend to assist revolutions when it is in our political or commercial interest to do so, further complicating an already complicated situation. Even something as simple as food for the starving becomes politicized and often held up at the ports by rival factions.

In this world, confusion isn't such a bad thing. There are problems we can't solve, but can only muddle through.



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Nope. I'm also torn. Adrahil Sep 2013 #1
When Bashar al Assad approaches the level of Adolph Hitler... MNBrewer Sep 2013 #17
I can't fault you... Adrahil Sep 2013 #22
So until he kills millions with gas....he is aok in your book? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #51
What makes him different from the Saudi princes who've paid terrorists to kill tens of 1000s leveymg Sep 2013 #55
Um no... MNBrewer Sep 2013 #61
We all have to perform our own analysis. David__77 Sep 2013 #2
I don't like wars, seen too many and innocent people are killed and injured. I think what set this Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #3
That is what distinguishes you from republicans liberal N proud Sep 2013 #4
^^ This thing right here. ^^ nt Robb Sep 2013 #24
I'm torn too nt maryellen99 Sep 2013 #5
I'm torn too Ruby the Liberal Sep 2013 #6
no Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #7
Not at all DJ13 Sep 2013 #8
thats why people, myself inculded, are torn on the issue. dionysus Sep 2013 #21
I agree, which is one of the reasons I'm against any retaliatory strikes DJ13 Sep 2013 #25
i don't think obama has nefarious motives.. the thought a lot have is "we need to save these people" dionysus Sep 2013 #35
i don't think obama has nefarious motives.. DJ13 Sep 2013 #36
there is always that. dionysus Sep 2013 #37
Indeed, if, as I suspect, Assad ramps up after a strike... joshcryer Sep 2013 #40
So sending the message to other dictators that gassing your opponents will not be tolerated VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #53
WHAT other dictators?? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #62
Who said THAT was the plan? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #52
Not a bad liberal LearningCurve Sep 2013 #9
No hard decisions are made without being a little torn before hand Boom Sound 416 Sep 2013 #10
I'm torn too. Perhaps we'll have to wait and watch more sadness unfold. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #11
Nope! JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #12
No... You Are Not Alone, But... WillyT Sep 2013 #13
This was posted on the very first thread I ever replied to here at DU LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #14
I am opposed because so far, I haven't seen any intelligent plans put forth. Savannahmann Sep 2013 #15
The "bad" ones are the doctrinaire ones who have all the answers... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #16
who is planning on turning it into Iraq? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #54
No one that I know of. TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #57
Me either VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #60
No - it's a complex issue. CakeGrrl Sep 2013 #18
No, your not wrong. janlyn Sep 2013 #19
nope, its called being nuanced in your thinking. dionysus Sep 2013 #20
It's the old two step..... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #23
No, I don't hold with the assumption treestar Sep 2013 #26
No I'm torn also but my gut says no! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #27
The thing is, KamaAina Sep 2013 #28
Progressives SHOULD be torn. Barack_America Sep 2013 #29
I'd say you're a GOOD Liberal jazzimov Sep 2013 #30
I think we can all agree that Republicans have no credibility on the issue. n/t Darkhawk32 Sep 2013 #31
Try being in the minority here ...I find myself in favor of action. jessie04 Sep 2013 #32
Anybody LWolf Sep 2013 #33
me too KT2000 Sep 2013 #34
Rec for honesty. I'm not torn on the issue. joshcryer Sep 2013 #38
My heart says no on strikes, and my brain says it has mixed feelings on this. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #39
I'm sure according to some.. but, not to me, Darkhawk. Cha Sep 2013 #41
Not at all I feel the same way Arcanetrance Sep 2013 #42
Not torn at all, it needs to be done. denbot Sep 2013 #43
All the options are appalling; you'd be a fool if you weren't torn. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #44
kicked for civility. nt jessie04 Sep 2013 #45
Definitely not a bad liberal. Skinner Sep 2013 #46
Agreed. IMO a Democrat, liberal or otherwise, has a responsibility to... YvonneCa Sep 2013 #63
I too am torn, Darkhawk. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #47
I'm also not sure what we should or shouldn't do. DrewFlorida Sep 2013 #48
'Calm rant'. Kudos just for that. randome Sep 2013 #49
K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2013 #50
kick jessie04 Sep 2013 #56
I'm torn also Skidmore Sep 2013 #58
I am torn myself. HappyMe Sep 2013 #59
I'm with you...torn, also. nt cry baby Sep 2013 #64
Thanks for all the replies. Was feeling sort of lonely with my feelings. n/t Darkhawk32 Sep 2013 #65
No ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #66
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