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343. Wow. People having a decent life really angers you. nt

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Fast-Food Strikes Expand Across U.S. to 50 Cities [View all] xchrom Aug 2013 OP

k/r marmar Aug 2013 #1

Now, this is the kind of strike I can support Cal Carpenter Aug 2013 #2

+1. I also love it, because Repugs are in overdrive attacking workers - they can't help themselves! reformist2 Aug 2013 #105

I'm lovin' it!* Auggie Aug 2013 #162

3rd strike day yeoman6987 Sep 2013 #354

Real progressive... Agschmid Jun 2015 #355

K & R and SOLIDARITY! bread_and_roses Aug 2013 #3

Proud union member here Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #4

K&R PETRUS Aug 2013 #5

This is long overdue Pakid Aug 2013 #6

As a former Burger King employee who started at $2.30 per hour, I say Rock on! corkhead Aug 2013 #7

Prediction: This is not going to work. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #8

i think if it goes to fifteen bucks they will price themselves out of a job loli phabay Aug 2013 #10

Pretty sure that is the republican position also. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #17

or people who know that why would someone work for twelve bucks when they can move jobs loli phabay Aug 2013 #33

So no one at the bottom should ever get a raise Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #39

no, but the reality is that if tbe wage goes to fifteen dollars then more skilled people will take loli phabay Aug 2013 #44

Oh I see, you are really concerned about the workers. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #49

nope, you seem to be intentionally missing the point, so i am done loli phabay Aug 2013 #50

you are done with DU? CreekDog Aug 2013 #274

no just the obtuse, plamph loli phabay Aug 2013 #314

Minot ND McD's is offering $300 sign-on bonus, $15hr leftstreet Aug 2013 #52

probuably cause they cant get employees due to the oil business paying so well loli phabay Aug 2013 #54

So what does that tell you? leftstreet Aug 2013 #55

that they cant get anyone to work mcdonalds in minot, whereas in other markets loli phabay Aug 2013 #58

So it's not true 'skilled' took 'unskilled' jobs? leftstreet Aug 2013 #60

in minot it seems everyone with any skills is also emlpoyed in the oil industry and support loli phabay Aug 2013 #62

You're on the right track leftstreet Aug 2013 #64

i dont disagree with you at all, i just dont see the end result being that loli phabay Aug 2013 #70

Others do, so let them organize leftstreet Aug 2013 #72

And another thing tazkcmo Aug 2013 #249

I'm from Missouri tazkcmo Aug 2013 #248

ND is experiencing a labor shortage due to its oil boom. Flatulo Aug 2013 #243

Abundance of jobs n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #254

And why is that? Flatulo Aug 2013 #258

Minot is in ND. uppityperson Aug 2013 #73

LOL you're right leftstreet Aug 2013 #76

Except if the wages of McD and other workers go up Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #121

The reality is quakerboy Aug 2013 #241

After a while low skill workers gain experience and skills. Maybe get promoted to shift manager. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #209

And you say this like it's a bad thing? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #74

he always takes the Republican position CreekDog Aug 2013 #273

Boom! Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #284

And this is why jobs at the bottom end of the scale need to go up. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #66

+1 n/t Laelth Aug 2013 #69

Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2013 #91

I think you may be missing the point emsimon33 Aug 2013 #161

Skill level homegirl Aug 2013 #176

This will help get the Federal minimum wage raised to at the least $9, as O has proposed forever Sunlei Aug 2013 #11

+1 PotatoChip Aug 2013 #29

Probably not; McDonald's CAN say no. End of story. closeupready Aug 2013 #30

They will say no LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #154

Weren't those the same arguments used during the '30s? Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #198

Selfishness and Greed athena Aug 2013 #51

There's no such thing as low-skill labor, and the notion that skill has anything to do Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #102

thank you noiretextatique Aug 2013 #123

Too many of us have gone well and truly insane. They're completely invested in perpetuating Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #193

Exactly! nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #207

All work is most certainly no equal, and the value placed on it depends on the skills required, as Flatulo Aug 2013 #215

Burger flippers tazkcmo Sep 2013 #336

I worked fast food too, while I was going to college so that I wouldn't have to work in fast food. Flatulo Sep 2013 #350

I made a good tazkcmo Sep 2013 #351

I don't begrudge anyone the highest wage they can get. I *did* work in fast food, and it's Flatulo Sep 2013 #352

At $15/hour, you're talking $31,200 per year - assuming you can get full time hours . . . hatrack Sep 2013 #353

You can't possibly compare skill needed to clean a toilet to the skill needed to operate on a brain. Flatulo Aug 2013 #213

Yes, you can. But reading through your replies on this thread, it is pretty clear that writing out Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #253

I've already read Marx. Wasn't impressed. Flatulo Aug 2013 #257

You don't even know what anyone else is talking about, but here you are, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #265

Can you be more specific? Flatulo Aug 2013 #278

Demand can be manipulated Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #301

And what does that have to do with it? tazkcmo Sep 2013 #337

I was responding to a post that claimed that the connection between skill level and wage Flatulo Sep 2013 #349

Rubbish Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #250

Ooh, $30 an hour... Well excuse my impertinence Mr. Buffett. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #255

Prolly Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #260

Forget it. The poster you're addressing is a Marxist. Flatulo Aug 2013 #263

Flat wrong on every count. Do you have any more Reich-Wing talking points you want to Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #269

I apologize if I've mis-characterized your position on the political spectrum. From your several Flatulo Aug 2013 #279

What's with the red-baiting? Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #302

Dude, it is not "nifty" and I'm glad that you are not bearing me any ill will. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #266

But the skill does matter Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #275

Of course there is low skill labor.... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #251

Nobody's making that argument. And "low-skilled" is either code or ignorance, depending on the Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #256

Welcome to MU - Marxist Underground Flatulo Aug 2013 #261

Did someone post that? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #262

This set likes to argue the points they wish somebody made. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #267

Bazinga! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #270

These are the posts I was referring to... Flatulo Aug 2013 #285

Sorry I read the entire thread HangOnKids Aug 2013 #291

Can you be more specific? Flatulo Aug 2013 #292

This claim HangOnKids Aug 2013 #293

I said it. It's my take on one poster's disdain for people whom I consider to be deserved Flatulo Aug 2013 #294

I put the quotes around the statement to show it was yours HangOnKids Aug 2013 #295

You have a lovely evening too. Flatulo Aug 2013 #296

Nonsense. Talk about erecting strawmen. If you go through my posts carefully, Flatulo Aug 2013 #286

The arguments have been made thousands of times by hundreds of people. If you're unaware of them, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #321

Thanks for the detailed, thoughtful response. I appreciate the time it takes to do this, because Flatulo Aug 2013 #323

Are you arguing for wage equality, or just a living wage? You scold and scold, but really don't Flatulo Aug 2013 #280

As a well experienced and licenced truck and auto mechanic, my last job paid $14.50 per hour. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #108

republicans are in general agreement with your opinions expressed here. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #141

"Warren Stupidity" ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #160

But he's not often wrong...... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #169

Hmmm, might I suggest... sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #189

This message was self-deleted by its author sgtbenobo Aug 2013 #190

Very tidy Republican talking points. Ontario? If you say so Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #259

So, because you are willing to trade your life for a tiny fraction of what it's worth, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #325

It's all about negotiation, people. They ask for $15/hour and are hopeful TheDebbieDee Aug 2013 #159

It's really not that high. Gore1FL Aug 2013 #195

I'm so tired of hearing it's not going to work. Did Hoffa say that when he first led the Teamsters? liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #235

Not sure if Hoffa is a good example. He ended up murdered by the gangsters. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #300

K&R NealK Aug 2013 #9

Cooking at home until Iliyah Aug 2013 #12

Un-skilled labor is not worth $15 an hour for most markets. Soundman Aug 2013 #13

Fast food is one of the more dangerous jobs in the country KurtNYC Aug 2013 #19

No job should pay a substandard wage leftstreet Aug 2013 #53

Obscene is what CEO's in this country make HangOnKids Aug 2013 #86

Nice post Neil Cavuto. Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #125

How about $9? $10? $11? progressoid Aug 2013 #135

There's no such thing as unskilled labor. And yes, you sound like you're getting old. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #194

So the list of restaurants impacted include JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #14

Chipotle is no longer a McDonald's company. They tried it and it didn't work for them mountain grammy Aug 2013 #20

ITA JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #25

You summed it up! These Cos. are using gov. relief as wage-support! Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #199

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So you plan to cross a picket line to patronize McDs? Or do you HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #21

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So you're going to be a scab just because you want a Big Mac? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #71

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You will not support decent wages, instead will be a scab for a fish sandwich? WHY are you on DU? uppityperson Aug 2013 #80

My question exactly. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #82

Search shows very mixed reviews. At least he is being straightforward about being a scab for a taste uppityperson Aug 2013 #83

There are some ringers on the jury, methinks... backscatter712 Aug 2013 #93

and whoops! there goes the zombie uppityperson Aug 2013 #95

I did. Hopefully MIRT will be issuing a pizza... Never mind, they just did! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #96

+++++++ uppityperson Aug 2013 #98

Did he get pepperoni and sausage on his Tombstone? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #99

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You do not support living wages. Your need for a taste treat outweighs others need for housing/food. uppityperson Aug 2013 #94

How is making enough money to be able to eat and put a roof over your head outrageous? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #81

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #87

It isn't HangOnKids Aug 2013 #88

Be a scab for a burger? On the positive side, you've only been on 1 jury here.eom uppityperson Aug 2013 #75

Your heart will thank you for eating elsewhere The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #24

I am nothing if not the sum of my contradictions. Seriously, though, one HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #27

Sure, just saying I got a laugh out of it The2ndWheel Aug 2013 #59

Once you pointed it out, I got a good laugh at my own HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #79

Yeah, I get what you are saying. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #28

Me too! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #89

K&R..Support Tippy Aug 2013 #16

For $15/hour, they could hire better workers. FarCenter Aug 2013 #18

$15 per hr for entry level, unskilled labor? GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #23

Your post only exposes the larger problem leftstreet Aug 2013 #35

My first thought too. (nt) PotatoChip Aug 2013 #45

Yep, they sure should. If CEOs get gigantic raises for sitting in a board room, juajen Aug 2013 #47

If McD's CEO's pay were spread out over all the employees... GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #56

So you don't want the employees to receive a raise? Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #103

Lots of folks around here think that the CEO's pay would be enough... GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #230

"unskilled" is a lie Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #61

I worked fast food in 1972. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #63

And in real dollars you made $14.00/hour nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #172

If that's true, then we should certainly index it for inflation. Flatulo Aug 2013 #214

That is true nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #216

Thanks, hadn't seen that. Flatulo Aug 2013 #217

Why the owner is the one who is unskilled Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #205

That is a rather silly statement. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #228

That's classic Marxist dogma, and demonstrably untrue. Most businesses start out as Flatulo Aug 2013 #233

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #107

They should all get $15 an hour. That's only $600 a week, you know (before taxes). reformist2 Aug 2013 #104

No, being forced to work in a job is slavery. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #109

Actually, wage slavery is real. We shouldn't be afraid to call it a form of slavery. reformist2 Aug 2013 #110

Er, calling working for pay slavery is a real kick in the nuts Flatulo Aug 2013 #264

Getting a less than living wage is slavery Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #303

Not sure if serious.... Mr_Teg Aug 2013 #252

Another voice in the republican labor chorus. nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #142

So anyone who has a different point of view is a Republican? LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #153

No, people expressing a rightwing point of view are in agreement with the republican view. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #164

Is it right wing to predict the strike won't work? LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #271

Maybe not... Spirochete Aug 2013 #288

No it is rightwing to refer to people as "burger flippers" who don't deserve a living wage. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #289

Yes, because you should be demanding 30 nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #171

There is no such thing as unskilled labor. The fact that our government's unwavering support Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #196

Have to disagree. ALL those jobs pay sub-standard wages... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #202

Looks like the republicans are not liking this one at all. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #26

Should be surprising - some of the replies. xchrom Aug 2013 #32

It sure isn't surprising. Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #34

+1 xchrom Aug 2013 #37

I knew before opening the thread that it would be a RW talking point roll-call of sorts - bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #65

And the funny thing is that the true cost per meal for paying decent wages to fast food workers... backscatter712 Aug 2013 #77

Sixty eight...to be exact nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #201

So many here just don't understand that raising wages is the start to raising all wages. canoeist52 Aug 2013 #31

Yes and the $15 an hour proposal is absolutely not Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #36

It's a decent starting point for negotiations. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2013 #97

+1 That is exactly what I was thinking. ChaoticTrilby Aug 2013 #245

Exactly. It's good for business too. People will be able to afford to buy stuff. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #40

Bullshit. Ford paid what he did because he had to pay it to get the level of labor he needed. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #68

I know Republicans hate the concept, but raising wages floats all boats. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #111

Ford decided the labor he was getting was not cost efficient delete_bush Aug 2013 #158

How does that not compare to today? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #208

High turnover may or may not be a problem... delete_bush Aug 2013 #242

Setting a wage floor is not the same as being "an arbiter of wages" SunSeeker Aug 2013 #276

Business model that pays slave wages? delete_bush Aug 2013 #305

$7/hour is slave wages. It is immoral. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #307

No link? Fair enough. delete_bush Aug 2013 #311

LOL. I wouldn't pay $150,000 for that "opportunity." SunSeeker Aug 2013 #312

I wouldn’t pay it either, delete_bush Aug 2013 #322

No, it won't be catastrophic. It will put us where we were in the late 1960s in today's dollars. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #324

The discussion is about the raising the FEDERAL minimum wage to $15 delete_bush Aug 2013 #326

The federal min. wage should be raised to $15, like it was in the 1960s in real dollars. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #327

It's been an interesting discussion, delete_bush Sep 2013 #330

We keep manufacturing jobs here by stopping the tax incentives for outsourcing. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #331

You seem to not address the $60K teenagers beyond delete_bush Sep 2013 #332

Every full time worker deserves a wage they can live on with dignity. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #333

Paul Krugman, from February of this year... delete_bush Sep 2013 #334

Please provide the link to that Krugman quote. It cuts him off in the middle of a thought. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #341

$15 in the 1960's is incorrect delete_bush Sep 2013 #335

My error. The minimum wage should be $21.72 today. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #338

By all means, Jack & Jill, delete_bush Sep 2013 #340

Wow. People having a decent life really angers you. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #343

Naw, but I am amused delete_bush Sep 2013 #344

I'm proposing $15/hour. That is not nonsense. That is a living wage. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #345

OK. delete_bush Sep 2013 #347

There has to be a NATIONAL minimum wage. Otherwise, there is not a level playing field. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #348

Actually you are so wrong it is not even funny nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #173

Hear,hear!!!!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Aug 2013 #46

It worked quite well in Brazil. Pommie Dinko Cirtbag Aug 2013 #200

Think Outside Minimum Wage leftstreet Aug 2013 #38

This should get interesting! Phentex Aug 2013 #41

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #42

I don't see anything CHEAP about sorefeet Aug 2013 #43

Kic and Rec for the so called Democrats up in arms Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #48

k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #57

k&r for labor. n/t Laelth Aug 2013 #67

Digging deeper polynomial Aug 2013 #84

Great! Today's the day I get a craving for TacoHell NightWatcher Aug 2013 #85

YES! Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #92

Solidarity Forever malaise Aug 2013 #100

There's no shortage of unskilled workers. Flatulo Aug 2013 #101

The objective is to create a shortage. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #106

I understand, and in normal times, it's a sound strategy. But we're in a depression, where Flatulo Aug 2013 #118

"But we're in a depression" ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #132

Technically, no. And if you're not un- or under-employed, I'm happy for you. Flatulo Aug 2013 #137

Those "millions of jobs going over seas" is why low-paid jobs are now in the limelight.... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #206

Understood. The difference, and I don't think it's a trivial one, is that the factory jobs Flatulo Aug 2013 #212

Jobs lost because companies wanted to increase profits by paying workers slave wages Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #211

I think you're underestimating that effect that efficiency has had on job destruction. Flatulo Aug 2013 #226

Totally agree Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #272

In one of my last jobs (I'm retired now) we had a 5-axis Haas machining center and one guy Flatulo Aug 2013 #277

I'm in repair Lurker Deluxe Aug 2013 #281

Sounds like its all good then, well done. Flatulo Aug 2013 #282

Your sentiment seems to find 'good' company in this thread. Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #113

Just being realistic. There's no way that zero skill labor is going to earn $15 when college Flatulo Aug 2013 #117

Oh yes. If you work - you should be paid a living wage. Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #122

Without some income disparity, how do you incentivize people to do the hard jobs? Flatulo Aug 2013 #150

LOL! Dude you're not seriously worried about a LACK xchrom Aug 2013 #156

You're being deliberately obtuse. Flatulo Aug 2013 #175

You need to read some John Maynard Keynes and the theory of money nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #231

That's not my beef. The poster I was replying to was suggesting that workers with higher Flatulo Aug 2013 #232

Right now there are disensentives nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #234

My son is in the same boat - $200,000 in education (thankfully paid in full by Dad) and Flatulo Aug 2013 #236

Because then the paralegal will start at $20 after a short period of adjustment nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #238

I agree that the downward wage pressure started with Reagan. I haven't read Keynes, but I do Flatulo Aug 2013 #239

Like it always has nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #240

Why are college grads only making $10 an hour? leftstreet Aug 2013 #126

Because they're being forced to take shitty fast food jobs. Flatulo Aug 2013 #151

If fast food paid $15 an hr would it still be shitty? leftstreet Aug 2013 #183

It would depend on the major and market demands Flatulo Aug 2013 #187

Another voice in the republican labor chorus. nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #143

Instead of a completely content-less drive-by insult, how about you identify where I'm wrong Flatulo Aug 2013 #152

I know, right? Perhaps we should lower the minimum wage. Nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #163

Why not raise it to $100? Flatulo Aug 2013 #166

Why not set it to a livable wage? Oh wait, then you would be supporting the strike. N. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #168

That's a highly variable figure dependent on geography. Flatulo Aug 2013 #178

And yet we have a national minimum wage. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #182

I can support indexing the minimum wage to inflation. If that's $15, fine with me. Flatulo Aug 2013 #223

15$ an hour for flipping burgers? muse03 Aug 2013 #112

Oh bullshit. If you work you should be paid xchrom Aug 2013 #114

Sorry I just can't bring myself to support this whole thing. muse03 Aug 2013 #115

That was a valid philosophy prior to the Reagan years. It worked for me. I worked hard, Flatulo Aug 2013 #119

So you feel that the social contract has been broken? Yet..... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #177

Where to begin... Flatulo Aug 2013 #210

when a worker doesn't make enough to do things like feed themselves -- you as a tax payer xchrom Aug 2013 #136

Who is handing out happiness? You imagine the workers are not worth the increase? Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #138

Bye forever! nt valerief Aug 2013 #145

And another RW neo-liberal RW talking point heard........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #174

Please check this you reaganite you nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #203

Oh the bootstrap crowd is in here chirping away HangOnKids Aug 2013 #116

What are you making? leftstreet Aug 2013 #124

Join the Army? ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #129

It's not just flipping burgers. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #139

$15 is reasonable. In fact in a lot of areas you would be hard pressed to totodeinhere Aug 2013 #188

Oh, for the love of all that's pure... ChaoticTrilby Aug 2013 #246

This is one of the most important single issues in the U.S. today! DrewFlorida Aug 2013 #120

DU Rec. Joe Shlabotnik Aug 2013 #127

Neo-liberal underground. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #128

right? especially when tax payers are put in the position of providing subsidies like food stamps xchrom Aug 2013 #130

Exactly. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2013 #131

+1 xchrom Aug 2013 #133

This is what liberals are. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #140

Yeah but libs hide it better ....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #179

Raise the minimum wage to $12 right now! DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #134

Who knew the republican labor chorus had so many voice here? Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #144

I know. I can't keep up with all the Ignores to add to my list. nt valerief Aug 2013 #148

Or that not many here are making $15 an hour leftstreet Aug 2013 #149

+1 xchrom Aug 2013 #157

You've been here a lot longer than I have. Surely you recognize the names? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #197

So the new minimum wage; greiner3 Aug 2013 #146

and everybody who makes Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #170

No what's crazy is a multi-millionaire making his money......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #180

ok, take his salary and break it up Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #181

That's a start. THEN we take his/her ownership of the means of production....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #184

you forgot Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #185

Why? Some are assholes who probably deserve it, but........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #186

No it is not. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #229

It creates a pressure to raise wages nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #227

Wow, I've got so many people from this thread to add to my ignore list. valerief Aug 2013 #147

I support it 100%. I'm just convinced that it will not succeed. Flatulo Aug 2013 #155

Hey DU libodem Aug 2013 #165

Somebody actually did the numbers nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #167

The 68 cents figure was wrong Travis_0004 Aug 2013 #218

It is in the article nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #219

Read it again. Travis_0004 Aug 2013 #221

They just updated it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #222

It is correct for restaurants owned directly by McDonalds (about 20% of McDonalds' restaurants). SunSeeker Aug 2013 #315

Nope. Travis_0004 Aug 2013 #316

No, labor costs at franchises are only 24% of revenues. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #317

I support this movement and if you study American history ... spin Aug 2013 #191

So tired of subsidizing these lazy, gimme-gimme DirkGently Aug 2013 #192

Exactly. They never want to start with the real welfare queens, they won't even talk about that. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #268

Proud SEIU member here. Mary Kay Henry is da bomb! AllyCat Aug 2013 #204

$28 per hour union autoworker. $15/hr for fast food is reasonable Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #220

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Look at this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #225

you are so right Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #237

You are so wrong. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #283

They said on the news that fast food restaurants would have to raise prices if they B Calm Aug 2013 #244

Fast food is gross. Period. Anyone making money off me eating nasty "food" can get bent. xoom Aug 2013 #247

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fuck you. nt xchrom Aug 2013 #290

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Lose your way headed to the libertarian picnic?.......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #297

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ENTITLED to a living wage from hard work. Mother Muckraker Aug 2013 #306

This country is in massive debt because Bush started two wars without putting them on the books... SunSeeker Aug 2013 #309

I smell pizza. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #308

Apparently your smeller was on the money....... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #319

awesome! dionysus Aug 2013 #304

Christ, who let the Heritage/Cato stooges in? HughBeaumont Aug 2013 #310

Thank you! Best post in the thread so far!! SunSeeker Aug 2013 #313

well done. nt xchrom Aug 2013 #318

Thank you for this. neverforget Aug 2013 #328

Thank you so much for this reality check. Who the hell ARE these people? nt Hekate Sep 2013 #342

Also, the minimum wage would be $21.72 if it kept pace with increases in productivity. Graph: SunSeeker Sep 2013 #346

Solidarity nt Zorra Aug 2013 #320

Wow. Another economical FAIL for many on DU. flvegan Aug 2013 #329

I'm in complete agreement with you. This is an unbelievably demoralizing thread. Hekate Sep 2013 #339