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newfie11

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1. Bullshit!!!!!

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 06:10 AM

Sep 2013

The rich will always find a way so their sons and daughters don't have to go. They have done this in the past and now they RULE the country. It sure ain't gonna change now!

Look at the wars from Vietnam on and tell me why we were even in them. All the deaths on both sides and for what.

This is just to feed the mic more lives so they can keep building WMD!

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Rangel wants vote on reinstating draft before vote on Syria [View all] davidn3600 Sep 2013 OP

Bullshit!!!!! newfie11 Sep 2013 #1

Or it may be a way of creating popular opposition to unnecessary war struggle4progress Sep 2013 #2

BINGO! B Calm Sep 2013 #3

It didn't work for Vietnam. Vietnam dragged on for years and involved tens of thousands pnwmom Sep 2013 #7

Actually, it did. A majority of Americans opposed the war by the end of summer 1968. struggle4progress Sep 2013 #9

+1 deutsey Sep 2013 #15

Actually, you're correct! mountain grammy Sep 2013 #17

yep, ^ this is his agenda. JRLeft Sep 2013 #35

Exactly! Even with the draft, it took 10 years to end the Viet Nam war. There will be chicken-hawks AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #10

skin in the game Supersedeas Sep 2013 #16

Rangel always does this when a military action is proposed jberryhill Sep 2013 #38

Charlie !!!! Your a Democrat !!! isn't that John McCains job . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #4

K&R Draft with two exeptions - one must be an coma or severely mentally disabled. idwiyo Sep 2013 #5

Right. Like having a draft cut the Vietnam war short. Rangel was there and he should know better. pnwmom Sep 2013 #6

Very true newfie11 Sep 2013 #8

I'm glad he got through that, newfie11. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #22

His position, as stated, is not to cut a war short. morningfog Sep 2013 #12

A draft would just make it worse. The rich will be able to loophole out of it as they always have. Erose999 Sep 2013 #30

Kerry was there, too Carolina Sep 2013 #14

Now how did that work with Iraq? A long war fought with National Guard multiple deployments.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #19

We didn't lose anything close to 50,000 troops in Iraq. No comparison. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #23

I've never liked the "body count" comparison.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #37

Simple. It means that a lot more deaths affects that many more troops and their families. pnwmom Sep 2013 #39

this has nothing to do with it treestar Sep 2013 #11

I understand what Rangell is doing and I support him. Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #13

do old people get grandfathered in? What's the age limit and length of service? Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #25

You can have a serious conversation or you can be snarky. Your choice. Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #28

Have at it. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #41

No, I don't think so. The chip on your shoulder is obvious. Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #42

That's what is done in Switzerland... KansDem Sep 2013 #32

Yes, I do mean more than military service Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #40

I am confident that hawks in this websites will accept and join the draft David Krout Sep 2013 #18

The War Hawks here are actually chickenhawk key board commandos warrant46 Sep 2013 #31

We cannot afford a military large enough to make a draft fair. hack89 Sep 2013 #20

My Mom and Dad both served in the Marines during WWII.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #21

I get Rangels angle but a draft never was a detterent from engaging in wars. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #24

Exactly, because children of the elite are excused. polichick Sep 2013 #26

Why is Rangel still in office? Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #27

"every socio-economic group" - that will not work. The 1% will send their kids out of the country if Erose999 Sep 2013 #29

Outstanding! The counter to perpetual war is a Draft. Get some of your Kid's skin into the game. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #33

I think it's a goofy idea. HappyMe Sep 2013 #34

I think it doesn't go far enough... sarisataka Sep 2013 #36