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6. Right. Like having a draft cut the Vietnam war short. Rangel was there and he should know better.

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 06:26 AM

Sep 2013

If we had been dependent on a volunteer army for Vietnam, we never would have lost more than 50,000 lives over 10+ years. The draft was what allowed it to drag on and on and on.

That is why, very soon after the war finally ended, Congress moved to end the draft: to keep another Vietnam fiasco from occurring.

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Rangel wants vote on reinstating draft before vote on Syria [View all] davidn3600 Sep 2013 OP

Bullshit!!!!! newfie11 Sep 2013 #1

Or it may be a way of creating popular opposition to unnecessary war struggle4progress Sep 2013 #2

BINGO! B Calm Sep 2013 #3

It didn't work for Vietnam. Vietnam dragged on for years and involved tens of thousands pnwmom Sep 2013 #7

Actually, it did. A majority of Americans opposed the war by the end of summer 1968. struggle4progress Sep 2013 #9

+1 deutsey Sep 2013 #15

Actually, you're correct! mountain grammy Sep 2013 #17

yep, ^ this is his agenda. JRLeft Sep 2013 #35

Exactly! Even with the draft, it took 10 years to end the Viet Nam war. There will be chicken-hawks AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #10

skin in the game Supersedeas Sep 2013 #16

Rangel always does this when a military action is proposed jberryhill Sep 2013 #38

Charlie !!!! Your a Democrat !!! isn't that John McCains job . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #4

K&R Draft with two exeptions - one must be an coma or severely mentally disabled. idwiyo Sep 2013 #5

Right. Like having a draft cut the Vietnam war short. Rangel was there and he should know better. pnwmom Sep 2013 #6

Very true newfie11 Sep 2013 #8

I'm glad he got through that, newfie11. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #22

His position, as stated, is not to cut a war short. morningfog Sep 2013 #12

A draft would just make it worse. The rich will be able to loophole out of it as they always have. Erose999 Sep 2013 #30

Kerry was there, too Carolina Sep 2013 #14

Now how did that work with Iraq? A long war fought with National Guard multiple deployments.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #19

We didn't lose anything close to 50,000 troops in Iraq. No comparison. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #23

I've never liked the "body count" comparison.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #37

Simple. It means that a lot more deaths affects that many more troops and their families. pnwmom Sep 2013 #39

this has nothing to do with it treestar Sep 2013 #11

I understand what Rangell is doing and I support him. Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #13

do old people get grandfathered in? What's the age limit and length of service? Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #25

You can have a serious conversation or you can be snarky. Your choice. Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #28

Have at it. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #41

No, I don't think so. The chip on your shoulder is obvious. Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #42

That's what is done in Switzerland... KansDem Sep 2013 #32

Yes, I do mean more than military service Stinky The Clown Sep 2013 #40

I am confident that hawks in this websites will accept and join the draft David Krout Sep 2013 #18

The War Hawks here are actually chickenhawk key board commandos warrant46 Sep 2013 #31

We cannot afford a military large enough to make a draft fair. hack89 Sep 2013 #20

My Mom and Dad both served in the Marines during WWII.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #21

I get Rangels angle but a draft never was a detterent from engaging in wars. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #24

Exactly, because children of the elite are excused. polichick Sep 2013 #26

Why is Rangel still in office? Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #27

"every socio-economic group" - that will not work. The 1% will send their kids out of the country if Erose999 Sep 2013 #29

Outstanding! The counter to perpetual war is a Draft. Get some of your Kid's skin into the game. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #33

I think it's a goofy idea. HappyMe Sep 2013 #34

I think it doesn't go far enough... sarisataka Sep 2013 #36