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ProSense

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14. Get a grip. I did no such thing. There
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:38 AM
Sep 2013

...are many people weighing in on this issue. Here is Wesley Clark's:

Wesley Clark: Syria vs. Kosovo

Wesley Clark

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As in the case of Syria today, there was no United Nations resolution explicitly authorizing NATO to bomb Serbia. But NATO nations found other ways, including an earlier U.N. Security Council Resolutionpage 105, to legally justify what had to be done. In Syria, the violation of the 1925 Geneva prohibition against the use of chemical weapons is probably sufficient justification. (The fact that Russia used chemical weapons in Afghanistan in the 1980s should be used to undercut Russian objections to strikes against Syria today.)

Kosovo also reminds us that it isn't imperative to strike back immediately after a "red line" is crossed. In 1998, NATO had established a red line against Serb ethnic cleansing; the Serbs crossed that line with the massacre of at least 40 farmers at Racak in January 1999. But NATO didn't strike immediately. Instead, France took the lead for a negotiated NATO presence. This strengthened NATO's diplomatic leverage and legitimacy, even though the talks failed.

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At a time when the U.S. faces many other security threats, not to mention economic and political challenges at home, it is tempting to view action against Syria's regime as a significant distraction. Certainly, it also carries risks. A year after Saddam was bombed in 1993, he deployed Republican Guard Divisions to Iraq's southern border into the same sort of attack positions they had occupied before the invasion of Kuwait in 1990. A few years later, the Republican Congress passed, with Democratic support, a resolution advocating "regime change." You can't always control the script after you decide to launch a limited, measured attack.

But President Obama has rightly drawn a line at the use of chemical weapons. Some weapons are simply too inhuman to be used. And, as many of us learned during 1990s, in the words of President Clinton, "Where we can make a difference, we must act."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/08/29/syria-wesley-clark-kosovo-nato/2726733/

Obama Open To Narrowing Language That Would Authorize Syria Strikes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023586008


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David Frum lol jakeXT Sep 2013 #1
Is this an attempt to compare, those who are against military intervention in Syria, to Repugs? nt boston bean Sep 2013 #2
It's instructive to read everyone's comments. All of them. Don't you think. Even Bolton. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #7
Oh horseshit.. He's just saying that because it's Obama. . . .n/t annabanana Sep 2013 #3
Since you are trying to smear anti-Syrian war people... former9thward Sep 2013 #4
Ha-ha-ha. ProSense allies herself with Max Boot and L. Paul Bremer :) - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #10
Get a grip. I did no such thing. There ProSense Sep 2013 #14
Full list of your RW allies: HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #20
Here, ProSense Sep 2013 #26
Any bed that has Norm Coleman AND Max Boot (and Elliott Abrams) in it is HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #28
Good for you. Do you want to be in "any bed" with Bolton? ProSense Sep 2013 #30
You're the one in bed with the vast majority of NeoCons, not I - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #32
So you're admitting to being "in bed" with at least one "Neocon," and projecting ProSense Sep 2013 #37
:rofl: - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #38
Is that an admission? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #39
Yoo is anti-war? Did you object to posting those opinions? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #11
Hey ProSense, wanna know what Karl Rove thinks? nt David Krout Sep 2013 #16
I have no idea of whether Yoo is anti-war or pro-war. former9thward Sep 2013 #44
Bolton's lying, as usual. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #5
And if he were in a Prez Romney administration... JHB Sep 2013 #6
That is not what he said just last week Kingofalldems Sep 2013 #8
Isn't John Bolton a NeoCon DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #9
Is John Bolton "the neocons"? David Krout Sep 2013 #13
ProSense: I'd 'vote yes' on Syria strike whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #12
whatchamacallit: "Since we're playing the A-hole Bedfellows game..." ProSense Sep 2013 #18
Crazy how you won't own your tactics whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #21
whatchamacallit: "Since we're playing the A-hole Bedfellows game..." ProSense Sep 2013 #24
The right and left are unified against war blazeKing Sep 2013 #15
I think you will see it is 50/50 when the vote actually happens DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #19
List of all the RW assholes on record supporting a Syria strike: HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #17
Evidently, ProSense Sep 2013 #23
How's it feel snuggling up to Norm Coleman? - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #25
You tell me. I mean, you apparently know more about him than I do. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #27
Haha, It's fun watching your poorly constructed IEDs blow up in your face whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #31
LOL! ProSense Sep 2013 #41
DU rec... SidDithers Sep 2013 #22
Once again whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #35
LMFAO - good one! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #42
You know what cracks me up? vanlassie Sep 2013 #29
Haha - good one! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #40
i thought he basically wanted the u.s. to conquer the entire middle east. unblock Sep 2013 #33
yea, but he saw a lot of 'america's interest' in iraq....fuck you bolton spanone Sep 2013 #34
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #36
You could line up all the foolish people who attack your posts for no reason at all ProSense.... NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #43
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