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karynnj

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14. John and Teresa Kerry were meeting the Assads as part of a diplomatic effort

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 10:59 AM

Sep 2013

to pull him away from funding and supporting Hezbollah and to institute reforms - that could have led to a situation where this civil war never happened. At the time it was a very long shot - and Kerry knew he would be attacked for trying. However, think of the lives saved had it worked -- and note, that had it worked very few, if any, would credit Kerry. This was Kerry, doing his job as Chair of the SFRC.

I can see that Firedoglake is still as hateful as when it entered its PUMA phase in 2008.

I think it disgusting that ANY Democrat prints this garbage. Since when did we not try for a diplomatic solution? This is different than disagreeing with his position on striking Syria.

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Kerry Labels Assad �HITLER� Despite DINING WITH HIM, British SOLD Syria CHEM Weapons For Civil War [View all] Segami Sep 2013 OP

OH FUCK!!! this is not good bigdarryl Sep 2013 #1

Guess we're at war with Eastasia now. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #2

Yup. Psyops max, now. Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #3

So the new standard if someone... dennis4868 Sep 2013 #4

Once again..."how do you know where to go, if you don't know where we've been?" Ninga Sep 2013 #5

Your title is inaccuarate; UK sold potassium and sodium fluoride, not 'chem weapons' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #6

But they didn't sell them, as you later pointed out Turborama Sep 2013 #53

Except he didn't label Assad "Hitler" tridim Sep 2013 #7

He says a lot of things blazeKing Sep 2013 #11

Sorry, your argument is worthless cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #12

Then maybe you should create your own hyperbolic post. tridim Sep 2013 #16

+ 1000 nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #26

Assad is not a nice guy. Like all dictators for life, he's a bastard Warpy Sep 2013 #8

Assad is not "better than any of the people fighting against him". The vast majority of war crimes pampango Sep 2013 #15

Per NATO, Assad has the support of 70% of the population of Syria KurtNYC Sep 2013 #19

On what date...... NCTraveler Sep 2013 #41

There are no secular brigades of fighters. Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #37

The Center for American Progress will be surprised at your analysis. Do you have a source? pampango Sep 2013 #49

If they overthrow him there will be a power vacuum Warpy Sep 2013 #48

"It's better to force a bad established government to make concessions." Agreed. How do you pampango Sep 2013 #51

One of the great lessons of history Warpy Sep 2013 #52

+ a million truebluegreen Sep 2013 #54

^^^this^^^ progressoid Sep 2013 #59

nothing pisses washington off like a friend straying. unblock Sep 2013 #9

I would be surprised if British and French officials did not have dinner with Hitler prior to 1939. pampango Sep 2013 #10

Nor would they be ashamed of it - it is normal statescraft karynnj Sep 2013 #17

How is this that much different than say, FDR sitting down with Stalin? rbixby Sep 2013 #13

John and Teresa Kerry were meeting the Assads as part of a diplomatic effort karynnj Sep 2013 #14

Reminds me of the RW mocking Pelosi for going to Syria. ProSense Sep 2013 #18

Very well said. Old and In the Way Sep 2013 #20

Nailed it... SidDithers Sep 2013 #24

Oh that would be too bad. Cha Sep 2013 #57

+1 iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #25

+1 NCTraveler Sep 2013 #33

It's willful laziness that breeds contagious ignorance. It also weakens Cha Sep 2013 #58

Recommend jsr Sep 2013 #21

so we can use white phosphorus matt in france Sep 2013 #22

Oh now don't you know tblue Sep 2013 #39

Fuck you, John Kerry. RevStPatrick Sep 2013 #23

Idiotic karynnj Sep 2013 #34

Meh... RevStPatrick Sep 2013 #38

"Assad is evil, but this has nothing to do with chemical weapons." ProSense Sep 2013 #44

And another outrage widget hits the shop floor... SidDithers Sep 2013 #27

This has nothing to do with chemical weapons and everything to do with corporate greed. JRLeft Sep 2013 #28

Sec of State is a position of diplomacy, and this was before civil war. Avalux Sep 2013 #29

K&R Ocelot Sep 2013 #30

I don't get it. Skinner Sep 2013 #31

The British did not sell them chemical weapons. NCTraveler Sep 2013 #32

Kicking because everyone needs to see..... NCTraveler Sep 2013 #35

what a load of bullshit... madrchsod Sep 2013 #36

It's just like the pictures of Rumsfeld with Saddam NightWatcher Sep 2013 #40

No it isn't ProSense Sep 2013 #42

Time for all the rich people who matter in the world to get richer. nt valerief Sep 2013 #43

So now trying diplomacy first is bad? NYC Liberal Sep 2013 #45

Kerry continues to disappoint. DirkGently Sep 2013 #46

Why does that remind me of this? HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #47

Let's look at the chemicals sold to Syria by the Brits. MineralMan Sep 2013 #50

Ouch!!! malaise Sep 2013 #55

Who cares about the dinner? treestar Sep 2013 #56