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In reply to the discussion: Simplistic, emotionally charged, we must intervene now OPs [View all]mike_c
(37,039 posts)39. I disagree with one important point....
"Lost in the shuffle is the actual question, which is, what is the effect, good or ill, or launching cruise missiles at some list of targets designed to not weaken the side being punished."
No, what's appears to be utterly and completely ignored in the shuffle is that it's a war crime-- and the U.S. has acknowledged that in the form of it's pledge on the U.N. Charter to NEVER initiate aggressive warfare for any reason. The ONLY justification for attacking another nation is self defense.
This isn't a philosophical debate. No amount of recourse to fantasies like "but would you agree to a war if Hitler were reincarnated and banging on your door" can change the truth that we are signatories of an agreement that defines precisely what we are debating doing as a crime against humanity and which forbids us from doing it. No amount of argument about Syrian crimes can change our agreement to not do what we are debating doing.
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Fact- Assad is getting desperate. His forces are deserting. He can't supply via ground.
KittyWampus
Sep 2013
#1
From Der Spiegel yesterday- please read the entire article but here is bit from middle
KittyWampus
Sep 2013
#43
Agreed. The downside for Assad to use chemical weapons was too great, especially
GoneFishin
Sep 2013
#9
It's fascinating. There are those who have no problem believing a story about kids killing each
GoneFishin
Sep 2013
#15
It's a waste of time to explain how we would be helpiing Al Qaida and the results of a rebel win.
L0oniX
Sep 2013
#45
I was thinking the exact same thing CakeGrrl upon reading the title of this OP
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#29
So forever more...anything that happens in the Middle East is covered by PNAC?
VanillaRhapsody
Sep 2013
#42
They'll keep appealing to our 'moral outrage' until it doesn't work anymore.
reformist2
Sep 2013
#18
Israel has attacked Syrian targets before and the world didn't end,no war erupted
The Straight Story
Sep 2013
#37