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JustAnotherGen

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26. I'm not saying

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:45 PM

Sep 2013

It's not any concern of mine - I'm trying to understand why people such as Nancy Pelosi - are saying that it is a National Security measure/interest.

They are saying it - without giving us very specific "They are doing this and if they are successful there is a 100% chance they will then do this to us."

That's what a lot of us want to know - what are the specifics? At this point - the world knows that the leadership of a sovereign nation deliberately did physical and fatal harm to his own people . . . we know that. To the extent, number, deaths, etc. etc. - that's still gray.

But I can't connect the dots on he did that - and it's a national security interest.

We can't have any secrets here.

If Fed Gov knows something - it needs to be stated clearly to the American people.

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The "This doesn't affect us" argument is weak [View all] Zynx Sep 2013 OP

Can't argue with that. nt BootinUp Sep 2013 #1

Actually, arming Al Qaeda in Syria does have a direct impact on us. dkf Sep 2013 #2

AQ is a very small contingent of fighters in Syria ... albeit one of the fiercest ... MindMover Sep 2013 #3

Says who? Early on many were paid by Qatar and were foreign. dkf Sep 2013 #9

Without getting into the rest of that, nothing Assad says is worth listening to. Zynx Sep 2013 #12

There are many Al Qaeda-aligned groups... Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #34

And the longer we continue talking instead of acting, these groups get larger and larger .... MindMover Sep 2013 #38

If we take out Assad - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #42

I totally agree about the short leash at this moment ... however ... MindMover Sep 2013 #51

Should we attack China Go Vols Sep 2013 #4

How in the name of all that is good in the world did you draw that from what I said? Zynx Sep 2013 #13

Clearly you didn't bother to read the post. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #55

More importantly it is dangerous to not only our national security but ... MindMover Sep 2013 #5

I agree with Zynx dem in texas Sep 2013 #6

I believe it is more than punishing the butcher of Damascus ... we cannot just lob a few missiles .. MindMover Sep 2013 #7

We have solution for that... malokvale77 Sep 2013 #8

Exactly. bunnies Sep 2013 #31

True malokvale77 Sep 2013 #60

I don't see any good coming out of limited strikes on Syria. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #10

Where did I say anything that prompted that response? Zynx Sep 2013 #14

Another take. TM99 Sep 2013 #11

One brief note, the gassing is not the only thing I'm responding to here. Zynx Sep 2013 #17

I read that you stated it was your view. TM99 Sep 2013 #27

good points treestar Sep 2013 #15

No it's not. LWolf Sep 2013 #16

Plenty of people have said "This doesn't affect us at all." Zynx Sep 2013 #21

What value is there in your prattling about what you think others would say in situations Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #24

That's not really the sentiment that I've been reading here. nt LWolf Sep 2013 #58

I agree with everything you say here deutsey Sep 2013 #18

So you have ironclad proof of... 99Forever Sep 2013 #19

I'm not talking about just the gas attack. If you look at what I said, I specifically said I wasn't. Zynx Sep 2013 #20

Well then.. 99Forever Sep 2013 #23

No one is saying 'to hell with them' and it is fucking offensive to characterize a desire for peace Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #22

With one major exception ... no other country has used gas to murder its citizens ... MindMover Sep 2013 #25

...except Saddam's Iraq. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #32

Well, this ain't the 80's ... there have been a lot of horrendous mistakes in the middle east ... MindMover Sep 2013 #36

Since you're desperate to Do Something. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #37

I personally believe that a punitive missile strike is not enough ... MindMover Sep 2013 #39

The problem is that the rebels are no better. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #45

I believe the goal is changing to more the degradation of capabilities to allow MindMover Sep 2013 #49

I fail to see how even full airstrikes will eliminate the chem weapons. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #50

I know there are not a lot of good choices ... and you are correct about blowing up MindMover Sep 2013 #52

Regime change just opens up a huge can of worms. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #53

But, we have done all this .... MindMover Sep 2013 #54

"Bomb the shit out of the Syrians"... you have the details of the strike plan? DontTreadOnMe Sep 2013 #29

You're the one peddling "crude shit." The poster was perfectly reasonable. pnwmom Sep 2013 #56

I'm not saying JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #26

There are evil things happening every day all over the world quinnox Sep 2013 #28

Using your argument, why shouldn't we attack The Sudan, or the Kenya to a lesser extent? bluestate10 Sep 2013 #30

And Congo. bunnies Sep 2013 #35

And mass rape as a tool of war. Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #43

Rapes? meh. Theres only been about 2 million of those. bunnies Sep 2013 #46

Weak. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #33

Yes, it does affect us. shenmue Sep 2013 #40

how about this one? mike_c Sep 2013 #41

Shouldn't we deal with our own war criminals first? reusrename Sep 2013 #57

No one on this board EVER said: Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #44

If we find conclusive evidence that -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #47

Oh, please. ocpagu Sep 2013 #48

The selective enforcement of "atrocities" being hypocritical and "morally vacant." Precisely Sep 2013 #59