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bvar22

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96. Well,,,,, apparently is IS,,,,

Reply to Mojorabbit (Reply #94)

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 01:00 PM

Sep 2013

,,,,for some,,, deep thinkers.

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In One Chart, Here's Why The Anti-War Movement Collapsed [View all] n2doc Sep 2013 OP

I said this very thing just the other day in a thread here on DU. TM99 Sep 2013 #1

The green party is a threat to mainstream/corporate Dems n2doc Sep 2013 #3

Agree, that may be true for now. Autumn Sep 2013 #7

10+ nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #16

Never thought I would see the day that so many Americans would defend Assad's gassing Cryptoad Sep 2013 #21

I never thought I would see the day that so many Americans zeemike Sep 2013 #28

Yea we know,,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #36

Yep Hitler is always a good straw man. zeemike Sep 2013 #46

You are the one pretending Cryptoad Sep 2013 #66

I am not pretending anything zeemike Sep 2013 #71

Strawman fail. blackspade Sep 2013 #29

and you are not calling Cryptoad Sep 2013 #38

Why would I be calling for retribution? blackspade Sep 2013 #99

What would the bombing accomplish? ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #33

I haven't said anything about Bombings Cryptoad Sep 2013 #39

OK. What kind of retribution did you have in mind? nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #40

as long as he is not breathing when it is over with,,,,,is ok with me! nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #44

Try to grasp this: sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #34

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #42

I'm not defending sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #52

That is to say you are defending him Cryptoad Sep 2013 #64

Some great black and white thinking there. Life isn't so simply divided into good and evil. nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #94

Well,,,,, apparently is IS,,,, bvar22 Sep 2013 #96

The Green Party wishes it was a threat quaker bill Sep 2013 #90

The reason is clear, Democrats expect their Party to end wars, so no protests are necessary 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #2

It seems like we vote that way n2doc Sep 2013 #4

You dam sure got that right. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #8

When was it ever claimed that Obama would "end wars"? NYC Liberal Sep 2013 #72

You warmongers are so tiresome n/t n2doc Sep 2013 #74

There's much less to protest thanks to Dems. gulliver Sep 2013 #5

Sadly, no. Maedhros Sep 2013 #23

Dems, MoveOn, etc, traded activism for access. Fuddnik Sep 2013 #45

Correct. polichick Sep 2013 #60

Really? What "access" do MoveOn et al. have? Hekate Sep 2013 #61

Here you go: bvar22 Sep 2013 #97

In my opinion, they've just given up. Maedhros Sep 2013 #73

Are the ones who abandoned their principles smirking and wearing cowboy boots? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #6

You can't have social justice without economic justice. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #9

And, frankly, I would argue the opposite. AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #24

Disagree... we need both...but without economic justice there's no chance for KoKo Sep 2013 #50

yup I've noticed that also but I also know personally that I am a lot less gopiscrap Sep 2013 #10

If our President had only rejected the Afghan surge in 2009 . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #11

If our liberal activists had GOTV in 2009-10 we would have not lost ground in 2010 Hekate Sep 2013 #65

The President's decision certainly demoralized me. another_liberal Sep 2013 #77

If "disappointment" and "rage" kept you home in 2010, the consequences were of no help at all... Hekate Sep 2013 #84

I did not say that. another_liberal Sep 2013 #88

The party in the White House almost always sees a net loss in mid-term elections Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #80

+1, but you know....fuck Obama!! cause...he controls airThing... uponit7771 Sep 2013 #98

How wierd the uptick in republicans protesting war mirrors the downtick in democrats. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #12

Look again. another_liberal Sep 2013 #22

Oh, you're right, I totally misread that. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #83

Which tells me that they simply dropped their affiliation. joshcryer Sep 2013 #87

Hmmmm? another_liberal Sep 2013 #89

Yeah, and they keep protesting. joshcryer Sep 2013 #93

Seems like people only want to wake up so far felix_numinous Sep 2013 #13

Thats bullshit, GW did not call upon congress to go to war! Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #14

You really need to brush up on History to avoid embarrassing yourself. bvar22 Sep 2013 #62

Thanks for the education, I stand corrected. Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #95

Or not enough desertion. polichick Sep 2013 #15

I stopped protesting RainDog Sep 2013 #17

I can see your point. I sometimes agree, but tomg Sep 2013 #43

yeah RainDog Sep 2013 #79

Rec! progressoid Sep 2013 #18

Recommend.... KoKo Sep 2013 #19

It very well may uncollapse in a hurry. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #20

This is what happens when you support the leader, because he is our guy, even though he continues RC Sep 2013 #25

Yes, party before principle, or worse, personality before principle. QC Sep 2013 #26

Then again here we are on *DU* cprise Sep 2013 #49

The "About" page here used to describe DU as QC Sep 2013 #85

Not shocking. blackspade Sep 2013 #27

I suggest that will change if this president start a war Marrah_G Sep 2013 #30

Protesting is time consuming and exhausting. Live and Learn Sep 2013 #31

Less Democrats are protesting because the Democratic President ended Bush's wars, as promised. tridim Sep 2013 #32

And now starting new ones of his own to take the place of those Bush wars... davidn3600 Sep 2013 #35

He's not starting a war. tridim Sep 2013 #47

just what in the hell do you call throwing a moltov cocktail into pit of gasoline? n/t nebenaube Sep 2013 #53

Like it or not, bombing elicits a different response than committing ground troups Hippo_Tron Sep 2013 #68

And the people that still want to protest can't see the difference between Bush and Obama. baldguy Sep 2013 #37

Neh, the height of the anti-war manifestation was under Dem LBJ and was about being DRAFTED. UTUSN Sep 2013 #41

Vietnam also had a strong partisan component. Jim Lane Sep 2013 #51

And if you look at the age of those who were in the streets tomg Sep 2013 #54

Good post! Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #59

Wow. You said it all: "self-interest presented as righteousness and idealism." n/t UTUSN Sep 2013 #81

That's why people hate me, the truth n/t UTUSN Sep 2013 #82

pretty revolting Doctor_J Sep 2013 #48

Are you serious ? lumpy Sep 2013 #57

The ODS is strong with that one. tridim Sep 2013 #75

Yes Doctor_J Sep 2013 #76

The Democratic Party is right-of-center BlueStreak Sep 2013 #55

PBO's election did not start with a coup d'etat, for starters, but with trust Hekate Sep 2013 #56

"What really disappoints me is----------- and didn't GOTV for the midterm 2010 elections" mick063 Sep 2013 #63

Do tell: it's not clear what your smackdown against GOTV is or will be. nt Hekate Sep 2013 #67

Yep. Start a new war, offer to cut SS, abandon unions, fail on background checks, Doctor_J Sep 2013 #78

Apt to be little anti-war sentiment in a political party whose only response seems to be: indepat Sep 2013 #58

As seen above, modern party Democrats were never anti-war, they were anti-Bush... Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #69

also then draft made a difference =lets go classless this time lunasun Sep 2013 #102

I'd also like to see a Chart of how the Environmental/Food Safety Movement has fared KoKo Sep 2013 #70

It looks more like people went third party to me. joshcryer Sep 2013 #86

Totally agree and 3rd Ps present at protests this last week here lunasun Sep 2013 #103

the antiwar movement people I know.. annm4peace Sep 2013 #91

Statistics can get real noisy quaker bill Sep 2013 #92

I have to agree with you cprise Sep 2013 #100

it is simpler than that quaker bill Sep 2013 #104

I want my party back upi402 Sep 2013 #101