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felix_numinous

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42. Unions are only necessary because of abuse

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 03:37 PM

Sep 2013

First people have to admit conditions are actually abusive, you know; sweatshops, flesh peddling, child labor, extended hours, no vacations, racist policies--and shrinking wages.

It is ABUSE, not 'hard economic times' or 'a recession'--it is a robbery by the owners, who if not checked by an equal and opposite force, will become addicted to greed and power--and they will just keep on taking, and taking, and taking. It can get worse.

Labor unions are like encounter groups for the owners who are addicted to power--their arbitrators are like therapists who make them listen to the voices of the people they abused--so they can stop denying and overcome THEIR ADDICTION.

Not just 'Union, Yes' anymore--it's:

'Union DUH!'

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My dad was a proud union member, now retired. He bought a home, cars, and raised a mess of kids... [View all] hunter Sep 2013 OP

Thank you for your post, totally agree with you, itvwas some hard times walking a picket line but Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #1

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #2

We keep fighting for it.. that's how we get to Cha Sep 2013 #3

k&r a trillion northoftheborder Sep 2013 #4

The GOP and the RW AM Radio Hatemongers made Org Labor the Bad Guys. lpbk2713 Sep 2013 #5

Amen. People are starting to realize life in the richest country in the world shouldn't be like this reformist2 Sep 2013 #6

Union wages and benefits converted the middle class into doc03 Sep 2013 #7

Bracket creep turned them into Republicans Warpy Sep 2013 #9

You can believe this or not but we would go on strike doc03 Sep 2013 #13

Ohio sucks. hunter Sep 2013 #14

Some people are just grabbers Warpy Sep 2013 #25

That's not exactly right. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #30

People saw the percentage of their income taken by taxes rise Warpy Sep 2013 #34

Why do people always go to the "stupidity" argument? OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #35

Wages were allowed to fall far behind inflation Warpy Sep 2013 #37

Your argument doesn't make sense. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #40

Wages didn't keep up with inflation Warpy Sep 2013 #43

I don't fail to understand. Once more: I Disagree. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #48

and instead of pay raises, millions of people got plastic credit cards SoCalDem Sep 2013 #38

Exactly, as purchasing power fell and taxes increased Warpy Sep 2013 #44

Don't forget subsidized childcare and paid maternity leave Warpy Sep 2013 #8

Yep, it ought to go both ways. hunter Sep 2013 #12

Where did it go, indeed? Scuba Sep 2013 #10

Excellent Omaha Steve Sep 2013 #11

K&R abelenkpe Sep 2013 #15

Republicans support NAFTA & GATT and bust unions upi402 Sep 2013 #16

Not now, but always have. obxhead Sep 2013 #19

Actually on #1 Phlem Sep 2013 #17

The minimum wage simply needs to be eliminated. obxhead Sep 2013 #18

Hell yes! If Australia has all that, why the fuck can't we?! nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #20

My Dad was a Union member (UAW). He had decent wages. Was able to save. Triana Sep 2013 #21

Yes. hunter Sep 2013 #26

Hope your dad continues to be OK. Triana Sep 2013 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Sep 2013 #22

All those wages are being vacuumed up by the super rich so there's little left for everyone else. Kablooie Sep 2013 #23

And who should pay for this? busterbrown Sep 2013 #24

I don't know if it is a farce so much OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #28

Great post MissDeeds Sep 2013 #29

Sounds like a plan!!!!! mstinamotorcity2 Sep 2013 #31

That is a great list kairos12 Sep 2013 #32

The current state of lobor is compliments of the Reagan policies. liberal N proud Sep 2013 #33

My father was a union member Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #36

When my dad retired from GM, he made more than I did working B Calm Sep 2013 #39

We're heading out of First World territory rapidly. Thanks, Reagan! Arugula Latte Sep 2013 #41

Unions are only necessary because of abuse felix_numinous Sep 2013 #42

You are aware unions in the US have a significant history of racism? Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #45

Thanks you are right! felix_numinous Sep 2013 #46

Me too. Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #47

We live in a racist society. hunter Sep 2013 #49