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In reply to the discussion: Kerry Labels Assad ‘HITLER’ Despite DINING WITH HIM, British SOLD Syria CHEM Weapons For Civil War [View all]MineralMan
(151,293 posts)50. Let's look at the chemicals sold to Syria by the Brits.
Sodium Fluoride - Commonly used as a source of flouride in toothpaste and as pills. It also has a number of industrial applications. It's not used in the synthesis of Sarin in the normal process of producing that nerve gas. It might have a use for that, but not in the standard way Sarin is made. Given the number of other uses for the chemical, I'd be hesitant to call it a nerve gas ingredient.
Potassium Fluoride - Generally used industrially to convert chlorocarbons to fluorocarbons, it's also not a normal chemical used to create Sarin.
Sarin - Sarin is a chiral molecule because it has four chemically different substituents attached to the tetrahedral phosphorus center.[5] The SP form (the () optical isomer) is the more active enantiomer due to its greater binding affinity to acetylcholinesterase.[6][7] The P-F bond is easily broken by nucleophilic agents, such as water and hydroxide. At high pH, sarin decomposes rapidly to nontoxic phosphonic acid derivatives. It is usually manufactured and weaponized as a racemic mixturean equal mixture of both enantiomeric formsby the alcoholysis reaction of methylphosphonyl difluoride with isopropyl alcohol:
I don't see either chemical as part of the manufacture of Sarin. I could be wrong, but organophosphates are usually made using phosphorus chemicals, not Sodium fluoride and Potassium fluoride.
A look at Wikipedia for the chemicals tells the tale.
So, this part of the story seems somewhat overstated, at least.
Potassium Fluoride - Generally used industrially to convert chlorocarbons to fluorocarbons, it's also not a normal chemical used to create Sarin.
Sarin - Sarin is a chiral molecule because it has four chemically different substituents attached to the tetrahedral phosphorus center.[5] The SP form (the () optical isomer) is the more active enantiomer due to its greater binding affinity to acetylcholinesterase.[6][7] The P-F bond is easily broken by nucleophilic agents, such as water and hydroxide. At high pH, sarin decomposes rapidly to nontoxic phosphonic acid derivatives. It is usually manufactured and weaponized as a racemic mixturean equal mixture of both enantiomeric formsby the alcoholysis reaction of methylphosphonyl difluoride with isopropyl alcohol:
I don't see either chemical as part of the manufacture of Sarin. I could be wrong, but organophosphates are usually made using phosphorus chemicals, not Sodium fluoride and Potassium fluoride.
A look at Wikipedia for the chemicals tells the tale.
So, this part of the story seems somewhat overstated, at least.
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Kerry Labels Assad ‘HITLER’ Despite DINING WITH HIM, British SOLD Syria CHEM Weapons For Civil War [View all]
Segami
Sep 2013
OP
Your title is inaccuarate; UK sold potassium and sodium fluoride, not 'chem weapons'
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2013
#6
Assad is not "better than any of the people fighting against him". The vast majority of war crimes
pampango
Sep 2013
#15
The Center for American Progress will be surprised at your analysis. Do you have a source?
pampango
Sep 2013
#49
"It's better to force a bad established government to make concessions." Agreed. How do you
pampango
Sep 2013
#51
I would be surprised if British and French officials did not have dinner with Hitler prior to 1939.
pampango
Sep 2013
#10