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Blue_Tires

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73. I'm just saying

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 06:46 PM

Sep 2013

People have gotten away with laughably flimsy "justifiable" murder defenses for supposedly heinous crimes (or by getting someone else to commit murder)...Forgive me for not taking the dad's story at face value...

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Father who beat to death man he caught raping his five-year-old daughter will NOT face charges [View all] pintobean Sep 2013 OP

awful situation but can't say I disagree backwoodsbob Sep 2013 #1

A tragedy for the family exboyfil Sep 2013 #4

definately backwoodsbob Sep 2013 #6

That says a lot about his character. pintobean Sep 2013 #8

Welcome back! morningfog Sep 2013 #7

thanks backwoodsbob Sep 2013 #11

Same thing happened here in Ark. and the father got 20 to life over the killing n/t Hestia Sep 2013 #2

Link? Orrex Sep 2013 #23

sorry - just saw your post - let me go hunt Hestia Sep 2013 #87

Thanks! Orrex Sep 2013 #95

I'd do the same. trumad Sep 2013 #3

I believe that justice was served. nt MrScorpio Sep 2013 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #9

Good result, but the Texas authorities should not have taken this to a grand jury. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #10

"should not have taken this to a grand jury." dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #12

I agree with your pragmatic reasoning but the grand jury referral was also legally correct Jim Lane Sep 2013 #32

Why not? nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #13

Additional stress and legal fees for an innocent man and traumatized family. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #14

I doubt that he needed a lawyer pintobean Sep 2013 #15

I don't know. He needed a lawyer as soon as he killed that predator. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #36

...put it that way. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #81

There is no legal cost for him associated with a Grand Jury. LisaL Sep 2013 #18

Well, most people get a lawyer before going to grand jury. Wouldn't you? aikoaiko Sep 2013 #33

Very few defendants go to the grand jury AngryAmish Sep 2013 #44

I realize that but its crazy to not talk to a lawyer before GJ. aikoaiko Sep 2013 #46

The story is dated yesterday pintobean Sep 2013 #57

I believe under Texas law that by taking it to a Grand Jury and Lurks Often Sep 2013 #17

No. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #19

Well sorta.. X_Digger Sep 2013 #38

Interesting find. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #40

Once you take this to the grand jury the man's basically free and clear Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #47

All deaths are refered to a Grand Jury in Texas. oneshooter Sep 2013 #77

Good. Common sense. truebrit71 Sep 2013 #16

I wonder where sarisataka Sep 2013 #20

This doesn't sound like it was vigilanteism. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #22

You have stated it exactly Orrex Sep 2013 #25

I concur, and would award demerits to those who "refuse to distinguish." Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #80

I don't necessarily disagree sarisataka Sep 2013 #26

Self defence and defence of others are recognised defences. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #29

I fully agree sarisataka Sep 2013 #31

Why don't you and your Gun Enthusiast pals take a hike? Paladin Sep 2013 #24

Well since you brought it up... sarisataka Sep 2013 #28

I hope your gun safety skills are better than your ability to pose trick questions. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #34

No trick... sarisataka Sep 2013 #42

no gun was used backwoodsbob Sep 2013 #30

That didn't stop our resident Gun Enthusiasts from turning out. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #63

Are YOU satisfied that justice was meted out? NickB79 Sep 2013 #51

Exactly derby378 Sep 2013 #61

I addresed the justice matter on another post in this thread. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #64

well ... I, for one, am here ... Trajan Sep 2013 #39

I have seen it put forth that sarisataka Sep 2013 #45

sarisataka, you're pulling this too far irisblue Sep 2013 #54

I have satisfied my inquiry sarisataka Sep 2013 #56

Wander into the pro-gun control group someday and see who is a regular. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #65

Well, Iris, I don't know you, but would suggest... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #82

Well, there are still a few DUers who even now say Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #69

Well, they're probably off opposing vigilante justice where it actually happened kcr Sep 2013 #41

It wasn't vigilantism and it wasn't execution of the criminal Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #48

Yes, and also, if he'd used a gun, they'd be hanging him high. closeupready Sep 2013 #50

I'm right here RandiFan1290 Sep 2013 #58

I admire your sense of justice... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #74

I'm not sure what he has to do sarisataka Sep 2013 #78

If he caught him in the act and was surprised, I think that's probably reasonable. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #21

Having something like that happen to one of your children would be extenuating circumstance liberal N proud Sep 2013 #27

The father and daughter will have horrible memories of that day the rest of their lives. Both are appleannie1 Sep 2013 #35

I believe justice was served. He caught him in the act and had the right and the duty to kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #37

It would have been worse for the rapist if I were the one who caught him. JRLeft Sep 2013 #43

Good. The Function of the Law in this Case Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #49

They never would have found a jury to convict. Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #52

What father wouldn't have beat the man to a pulp? Rex Sep 2013 #53

I'd have done the same. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #55

In 1984, a dad deliberately shot & killed man who abducted & sexually abused his 11-yr old son. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #59

I remember that case. I think it was too light a sentence. I think now days it.... Logical Sep 2013 #67

Can't go with that sentence. Compassion out of control Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #84

Daily Mail? F that, here's a better link alp227 Sep 2013 #60

Your link wasn't available pintobean Sep 2013 #66

Good. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #62

I hate to be "that guy", but Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #68

If you hate it pintobean Sep 2013 #71

I'm just saying Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #73

the grand jury has spoken Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #79

In both of those cases pintobean Sep 2013 #83

The raped 5-yr old's body would be very strong evidence. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #85

The 911 calls Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #88

Good PD Turk Sep 2013 #70

I expected a few post to the effect of ... surrealAmerican Sep 2013 #72

This is not a normal situation. ohnoyoudidnt Sep 2013 #75

Your opinion seems almost insanely unrealistic Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #89

Excellent response. pintobean Sep 2013 #91

You misunderstood my post. surrealAmerican Sep 2013 #92

You can kill someone with one punch Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #93

Once again: I am not criticizing this man's actions. surrealAmerican Sep 2013 #94

Good. Ruby the Liberal Sep 2013 #76

I doubt a jury would convict him. Fawke Em Sep 2013 #86

Good! nt Raine Sep 2013 #90