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jimlup

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51. Do you have a reference for that?

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:02 PM

Sep 2013

I have a more than casual historical interest.

If you don't I can look it up too but if you happen to have it handy that would be really helpful.

Geez I'll be honest - I'm sort of on the edge with the Syria thing. I'm opposed to unilateral US action without a UN security council resolution but I'm revolted by the use of chemical weapons and I do believe the administration's evidence on chemical weapons. I also don't see how a surgical strike will actually help anything. If it doesn't literally turn the tide in the civil war then what's the point????

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The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 was a "limited surgical strike"... [View all] bvar22 Sep 2013 OP

It was accompanied with a Declaration of War sarisataka Sep 2013 #1

Exactly what I thought when I heard this and emsimon33 Sep 2013 #2

I believe that is one man's view avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #18

Thank you for correction. emsimon33 Sep 2013 #21

That rumor was largely fed by Thomas Dewey, Roosevelt's opponent in the 1944 election LongTomH Sep 2013 #29

Yep. Wait Wut Sep 2013 #5

All you want is for Assad to DIE, but claim you're not on anyone's side? bvar22 Sep 2013 #7

Yes. Wait Wut Sep 2013 #8

The citizens of Syria support Assad blazeKing Sep 2013 #16

I'm sure all of them do. Wait Wut Sep 2013 #24

What does this have to do with protecting our freedom? Heather MC Sep 2013 #55

Then put on your ninja suit and catch a flight, buckaroo n/t Scootaloo Sep 2013 #32

I'll get right on that... Wait Wut Sep 2013 #33

Good to see someone putting their footie jammies where thier mouth is Scootaloo Sep 2013 #35

You're so adorable. Wait Wut Sep 2013 #37

I wasn't debating, I was mocking. There's a difference. Scootaloo Sep 2013 #39

Mocking? Really? Wait Wut Sep 2013 #41

Really? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #57

Bronies know all about foot jammies...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #49

No, does not work treestar Sep 2013 #3

I don't believe that people killed by the bombs... bvar22 Sep 2013 #9

This is a larger question than that treestar Sep 2013 #28

So again, it's to make ourselves feel good and look tough Scootaloo Sep 2013 #44

the us did nothing wrong? the blockade the us put up around japan was a wrong to them in their eyes leftyohiolib Sep 2013 #13

I think embargo was the word you wanted to use NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #20

It wasn't using chemical weapons against others treestar Sep 2013 #26

you said the us did nothing wrong and got attacked i'm saying it wasnt that simplistic leftyohiolib Sep 2013 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #61

Actually, it does work. David__77 Sep 2013 #31

The theater is beyond insulting. woo me with science Sep 2013 #4

I heard that Bush II spread the word that noone on our side was going to get killed and that it Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #14

As said Pres. Clinton too in regard to the Bosnian conflict. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #43

In a few weeks, we'll be told... backscatter712 Sep 2013 #45

Reports are now coming in from Syria... pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #6

LOL... It took me a minute, bvar22 Sep 2013 #12

It was not limited. The Japanese moved on American holdings throughout the Pacific. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #10

The attack on Pearl harbor WAS "limited" in duration, resources, and targeting. bvar22 Sep 2013 #19

No. The attack on PH was one of many attacks on the same day. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #22

Technically speaking, military strategist call Pearl Harbor the most successful strike of WWII. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #11

Pearl Harbor was a failure. oneshooter Sep 2013 #38

they caught us by surprise. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #47

Tactically it was a tremendous success, sarisataka Sep 2013 #50

Interesting observation jimlup Sep 2013 #15

The latest figure is 68 civilians killed. nt NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #25

Do you have a reference for that? jimlup Sep 2013 #51

http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/teach/pearl/aftermath/facts.htm NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #56

And the Japanese had bad intel too scooter rider Sep 2013 #17

His "intel" is coming from the same people who have shown a history... bvar22 Sep 2013 #23

And how does that pertain to this situation? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #27

WHat Syria's response is doesn't matter. bvar22 Sep 2013 #34

BUT YOU are guess that is the plan... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #46

actually this is wrong Abukhatar Sep 2013 #30

The two attacks are NOT equivalent. bvar22 Sep 2013 #42

I've just been reading about WW2. Yesterday I read that the Midway revealed to the Japanese snagglepuss Sep 2013 #36

Reasons make all the difference. Japan didn't attack us to save us from our government. phleshdef Sep 2013 #40

FFS... SidDithers Sep 2013 #48

I agree, The op is okay, his point is easy to see, but your post? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #60

The whole problem with this civil war in Syria is that Jenoch Sep 2013 #52

No it wasn't Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #53

this is perhaps the dumbest post i have ever read. dionysus Sep 2013 #58

Yeah, like people who launch cruise missiles are not soldiers jsr Sep 2013 #59