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Ken Burch

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105. You just admitted you have no cogent argument against what I said.

Reply to DURHAM D (Reply #104)

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:19 PM

Sep 2013

A one-word "drive by" isn't a rebuttal.

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Thread to mourn the passing of the soul of John Kerry [View all] Ken Burch Sep 2013 OP

. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #1

Kerry is following a Higher Calling.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #117

It's the Blue Skies and Puff Clouds of the Cape Cod Lanscape KoKo Sep 2013 #169

'Far from the Madding Crowds ignoble strife' sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #206

That's about it.... What's Left! KoKo Sep 2013 #175

I can't think of an SOS that we've had that was worth a shit. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #180

The power doesn't exist for the job, anymore? KoKo Sep 2013 #184

Yup, I think it's a position of prestige without power, like a ambassadorship. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #186

Yes... KoKo Sep 2013 #191

Cyrus Vance didn't totally suck - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #229

Another soul lost to the MIC. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #2

One way or another, the MIC kills them. villager Sep 2013 #17

I am so curious (and sickened) about the process... CoffeeCat Sep 2013 #70

Those are all very good questions and I wish... prairierose Sep 2013 #108

Or could you possibly be wrong karynnj Sep 2013 #116

Bravo! n/t wisteria Sep 2013 #157

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #241

"What changed?" Hubert Flottz Sep 2013 #119

Exactly. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #216

This is not a Neocon position and SOS Kerry believes any person of wisteria Sep 2013 #155

So firing Tomahawk Unknown Beatle Sep 2013 #167

But...he did a repeat of Colin Powells crap that led us into Iraq! KoKo Sep 2013 #172

You might argue that SoS Kerry isnt a neo-con but you should recognize rhett o rick Sep 2013 #231

Showing Assad what kind of bombs its OK to drop on the Syrian people by dropping them on the Syrian Erose999 Sep 2013 #243

He was a member of Skull & Bones before his Viet Nam tour. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #219

I see a lot of questions like this here. TM99 Sep 2013 #233

Wow, what a very thoughtful and thought-provoking response... CoffeeCat Sep 2013 #256

You are welcome. TM99 Sep 2013 #257

RIP dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #3

Sad to watch malaise Sep 2013 #4

You thought it was "hilarious" about 5 minutes ago. nt tridim Sep 2013 #6

Hilarious that he thinks we buy the koolaid malaise Sep 2013 #10

What do you think about Sanders and Warren "buying the koolaid"? tridim Sep 2013 #12

Just sad n/t malaise Sep 2013 #53

His soul left long ago... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #5

Washington DC destroys too many souls. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #44

Exactly Carolina Sep 2013 #192

Unfortunately, too many Ds failed that test. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #230

What a freaking load of bullshit... Rosco T. Sep 2013 #7

Here's proof of at least one deception by Kerry: Maedhros Sep 2013 #64

There were reports that they were not allowed in the gassed karynnj Sep 2013 #121

I submit that Haq is more qualified to speak on behalf of the UN Maedhros Sep 2013 #151

Not what I said karynnj Sep 2013 #164

I'm following you. Maedhros Sep 2013 #181

I parsed it differently than you - but I see how what you saw was a contradiction karynnj Sep 2013 #189

Wouldn't it be a good idea SwankyXomb Sep 2013 #239

Wouldn't it be a better idea to NOT shell a suburb of your capital after it just suffered a chemical karynnj Sep 2013 #240

LOL, capital letters helped a lot. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #75

+1 n/t wisteria Sep 2013 #158

can I start a thread to mourn yours? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #8

You can start a thread on whatever you want. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #19

apparently it recently did.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #23

No one's soul ever died from telling the truth and opposing killing. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #45

You do NOT know that.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #84

Please explain DaveT Sep 2013 #148

If they are done to neutralize them VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #149

You think the plan is to use missiles to "neutralize" chemical weapons? Dragonfli Sep 2013 #211

As I keep saying....we have been working on chemical weapons neutralization for over a decade VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #218

Sooo... that is not the plan, merely a fantasy you have been musing about? Dragonfli Sep 2013 #221

there is NO plan that is public... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #222

That is not what I heard regarding the goals of the administration Dragonfli Sep 2013 #223

Goals != plans VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #225

So the plans will achieve the goals of "sending a message" with a "limited" punitive strike Dragonfli Sep 2013 #228

If no one's soul ever died from telling the truth and opposing killing... YvonneCa Sep 2013 #177

You don't oppose killing by escalating a war Ken Burch Sep 2013 #250

Not talking about me. If... YvonneCa Sep 2013 #254

It's the defining moment ... you are either with God or against him. Eddie Haskell Sep 2013 #79

Let me get this straight. Your argument is, "nuh-uh, YOU are"? Marr Sep 2013 #96

Actually its the "if you agree with Obama you must have a dead soul" fan club... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #144

Yours is easily as dead as SOS Kerry's is karynnj Sep 2013 #123

I think he is an honorable man and his soul is intact. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #9

What he said in the antiwar movement can no longer mean anything to him. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #13

I think that is going overboard. They want to bomb a few military sites. I do not support it hrmjustin Sep 2013 #28

You assume it will be left at "a few military sites" Ken Burch Sep 2013 #38

You make a good point but Kerry is a good egg. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #43

A few military sites? Kerry even had trouble ruling out boots on the ground. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #67

The President promised there would be no boots on the ground. I take him at his word. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #71

I trust NO politician. None. 99Forever Sep 2013 #125

Really, as if Carolina Sep 2013 #197

I never said I was for it. But this is not going to be a full scale war. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #199

Kerry was NOT a pacifist in 1971 karynnj Sep 2013 #132

But, they are there in Syria? He has found his "true calling?" KoKo Sep 2013 #209

He never said he was against ANY military action... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #178

hrmjustin - Agree! nt Saturday Sep 2013 #15

Well, if his soul is intact, it's sitting in a pawn shop in Riyadh. n/t Scootaloo Sep 2013 #22

I don't agree. He is a good man. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #31

They say Robert McNamara was a nice guy when you got to know him. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #37

Well you have your point of view but I think Kerry is a good man. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #47

Want to bet some innocent people die? n-t Logical Sep 2013 #73

There is a possiblity. As I said I do not support this. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #77

I know lots of good people, men and women Scootaloo Sep 2013 #41

I agree. This post is crap. n/t YvonneCa Sep 2013 #85

+1 million. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #183

Indeed, may it rest in peace. David__77 Sep 2013 #11

So disheartened right now eissa Sep 2013 #14

But look ma, I made it! - I'm Secretary of State! reformist2 Sep 2013 #16

When he gets the Nobel Peace Prize you will be sorry you didn't stand with him. Agony Sep 2013 #18

They gave Henry Kissinger the Nobel Prize for slaughtering millions. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #27

Ken..... don't make me use that :sarc: thingy Agony Sep 2013 #30

Sorry...didn't get the irony you were doing. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #34

What of Israel/Palestine karynnj Sep 2013 #135

.. Hydra Sep 2013 #20

They trade their souls to become corporate pod people. woo me with science Sep 2013 #21

immense power heaven05 Sep 2013 #58

K&R Myrina Sep 2013 #24

Respectfully... BULLSHIT (cont) Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #25

But a good man or woman cannot say that dropping bombs is not going to war Fumesucker Sep 2013 #65

I agree with you and disagree with Kerry. I just dislike statements like the one I responded to. nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #106

Kerry, or any Sec of State, does not decide policy. KurtNYC Sep 2013 #68

He should have done the decent thing and resigned. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #72

So you're saying President Obama has no "soul"? n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #76

I never expected as much from Obama. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #82

I agree, thanks Chris. shotten99 Sep 2013 #234

When did JK lose his soul? Hutzpa Sep 2013 #26

It started dying when he started pretending there was such a thing Ken Burch Sep 2013 #109

here's my thought: I wouldn't presume to "mourn his soul" and I find cali Sep 2013 #29

The person within matters. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #80

Well put cali davidpdx Sep 2013 #213

. Berlum Sep 2013 #32

Talk about hyperbole treestar Sep 2013 #33

It's not about "disagreeing with me". Ken Burch Sep 2013 #40

I don't think you can know that treestar Sep 2013 #42

It's not just about "seeing something differently than I do" Ken Burch Sep 2013 #63

Prove this statement Shivering Jemmy Sep 2013 #93

Iraq proved it. Afghanistan proved it. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #94

You didn't answer the question Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #226

its called reality Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #61

what stupid shit JI7 Sep 2013 #35

It seems like desperation because Kerry made his case. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #52

He may have persuaded Congress to back him on the slaughter. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #87

Why presume that you know John Kerry of 1971? karynnj Sep 2013 #139

You have that right! n/t wisteria Sep 2013 #165

I mourn the John Kerry that spoke for my generation : Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #36

That's the guy I miss. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #49

I lost my cherished Brother in Vietnam. That speech was important to me. Autumn Sep 2013 #56

Seasons Change warrant46 Sep 2013 #171

Kerry was protesting a mismanaged and hopeless situation in Viet Nam shotten99 Sep 2013 #235

I mourn the inspiring man that he was and is no more. Autumn Sep 2013 #39

I think that is a better and more constructive way to say what the OP said davidpdx Sep 2013 #214

Perhaps this may be a generational thing. It is in my mind Autumn Sep 2013 #248

Silliness. Skepticism and criticism are one thing when it comes to matters of war, TwilightGardener Sep 2013 #46

You're clueless and insulting. nt babylonsister Sep 2013 #48

I'm not the one who thinks there can be such a thing as "a limited strike" Ken Burch Sep 2013 #60

In other words Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #126

Evil can't be stopped by killing. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #134

You say that "the world doesn't work that way anymore" Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #196

Excellent, Summer, thank you! These Cha Sep 2013 #173

Excellent post. Thank you. n/t YvonneCa Sep 2013 #188

He will be missed: marble falls Sep 2013 #50

Does this make him a Zombie? (I didn't read the other replies, I may not be the first to mention) AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2013 #51

"Secretary of State John Kerry delivered a fiery rebuke to...Sen. Rand Paul�s line of questioning" ProSense Sep 2013 #54

It may have been ''fiery'', but only in a STUPID-fiery way Ocelot Sep 2013 #78

No, it was a ProSense Sep 2013 #81

The only thing I have to say about Rand Paul is Ocelot Sep 2013 #83

LOL! n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #86

ROFL. Saved by parenthesis. tridim Sep 2013 #115

really....sorry but that`s the funniest thing i've read today madrchsod Sep 2013 #215

If this were 1965, your posts would be calling for escalation in Vietnam. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #88

Bullshit! n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #95

Intervention is intervention is intervention. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #97

Nonsense is Nonsense is Nonsense. Advocating ProSense Sep 2013 #101

So, so long as it means Rand Paul looks bad, ANYTHING is justified? Ken Burch Sep 2013 #90

Before you become Sec. of State . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #55

How ridiculous. nt DevonRex Sep 2013 #57

if it was WW2 they'd be calling pearl harbor MIHOP and axis atrocities propaganda and lies... dionysus Sep 2013 #128

That thing on Rand's head looks mean. I wouldn't stand with him. DevonRex Sep 2013 #201

The Patriot crowd believes both of those things. No shit. 'FDR set us up for the NWO.' Except that: freshwest Sep 2013 #224

wel Ken acording to Kerry azurnoir Sep 2013 #59

Wow this is silly mythology Sep 2013 #62

Nope. There's only black and white. There is no gray. Arkana Sep 2013 #66

The problem is, in these cases, "grey" is code for "we have to kill them" Ken Burch Sep 2013 #69

Exactly. And they are busy trying to suppress Liberal and Moderate voting FSogol Sep 2013 #74

The difference is, Gandhi BROKE with violence. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #103

So... bobclark86 Sep 2013 #89

It won't be just a dozen missiles. And our involvement can't be contained. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #100

The Kerry bashing for the past few days DURHAM D Sep 2013 #91

He no longer believes any of the things he spoke for in 1971. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #99

drivel DURHAM D Sep 2013 #104

You just admitted you have no cogent argument against what I said. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #105

drivel does not deserve a response DURHAM D Sep 2013 #107

It's not drivel to say Ken Burch Sep 2013 #110

It's not drivel, it's a LIE. n/t YvonneCa Sep 2013 #194

Oh lord Shivering Jemmy Sep 2013 #92

Yeah, but he's a gazillionaire now. They have no souls. nt valerief Sep 2013 #98

I agree. Your post(s) are very poignant. I think most bbgrunt Sep 2013 #102

Yet another Democrat under the bus. longship Sep 2013 #111

I am being respectful. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #120

I agree with you wholeheartedly. longship Sep 2013 #141

Excellent post! n/t YvonneCa Sep 2013 #200

Kerry is a moral, decent man who has worked hard for peace - karynnj Sep 2013 #112

It is a call to kill...because U.S. intevention cannot be limited to "a few strikes". Ken Burch Sep 2013 #122

I am in awe that a poster on DU has more military knowledge than Obnama's karynnj Sep 2013 #127

Killing can never be moral. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #131

OMG karynnj Sep 2013 #142

Would you favor military intervention in Syria under any circumstances? n/t michigandem58 Sep 2013 #113

None that would be possible in the world as we know it. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #118

Were you under the impression regime change was the goal? michigandem58 Sep 2013 #124

I know that it isn't. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #129

We could damage his capability to deliver the attacks michigandem58 Sep 2013 #133

RIH...and Condolences... KoKo Sep 2013 #114

Oh brother, a little over the top, no? n/t wisteria Sep 2013 #161

I've never heard Kerry get this passionate before.. sendero Sep 2013 #130

I think the opposite is true - he is motivated by his reaction to what he karynnj Sep 2013 #143

A "moral obscenity".. sendero Sep 2013 #154

When it comes to serving his country he's no Edward Snowden BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #136

That is for sure - and the difference is to Kerry's advantage. karynnj Sep 2013 #146

Some very questionable taste in heroes around here BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #150

Mine as well karynnj Sep 2013 #156

The Douglas Brinkley bio is great in that respect BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #170

Indeed Skraxx Sep 2013 #198

Having a ketchup bottle up yer arse changes ya I guess. L0oniX Sep 2013 #137

JAN 16 1961 Prophetic, no just common sense . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #138

Possessed by the non-soul of Colin Powell MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #140

People who turn their heads when others are victims of atrocity are without souls. lumpy Sep 2013 #202

Bullshit, Kerry is an honourable man ! Sand Wind Sep 2013 #145

There's something about Washington DC agent46 Sep 2013 #147

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #162

Fantasy is the plaything of children. lumpy Sep 2013 #204

Hey Lumpy agent46 Sep 2013 #212

Kerry was an empty suit back in '04, fall guy for George W. Bush blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #152

Nonsense - he nearly won against a President who was at 60% in December 2003 karynnj Sep 2013 #166

Oh please, this is not a mistake. wisteria Sep 2013 #153

Hear hear _ Sick of armchair experts making off the wall judgments. lumpy Sep 2013 #205

you make it sound like it happened recently. KG Sep 2013 #159

Kerry had his Colin Powell moment... 99Forever Sep 2013 #160

When you are 1/2 the man John Kerry is..... Old and In the Way Sep 2013 #163

Oh yes. n/t wisteria Sep 2013 #168

Ouch! n/t politicasista Sep 2013 #174

He has more money than many of us ...so we are "No Man" rather than 1/2. nt KoKo Sep 2013 #176

Ahh yes... 99Forever Sep 2013 #179

Since when do you have to be SOS and have fought in an immoral war to know right from wrong. Agony Sep 2013 #185

I'll trust JK ovet any anonymous poster on DU Old and In the Way Sep 2013 #193

That will leave a mark. HappyMe Sep 2013 #232

The Obama administration has offered doodley squat as far as proof Assad used chemical weapons. It Erose999 Sep 2013 #244

I'm not an anonymous poster. That's my own name I post under. Ken Burch Sep 2013 #249

Oh The Sanctimony! Shall We Dissect Your Perfect Soul? Skraxx Sep 2013 #182

+1 KoKo Sep 2013 #187

I'm no saint, but I'm not a militarist, either, Ken Burch Sep 2013 #253

So, Sanctimonious, Presumptuous AND Facile! Skraxx Sep 2013 #255

Kerry lost his soul??? fadedrose Sep 2013 #190

John Kerry has a soul and its a live polynomial Sep 2013 #195

Thanks for this post... KoKo Sep 2013 #210

Utter bullshit....please see graphic below pkdu Sep 2013 #203

It used to be DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #207

George Carlin: "Politicians are put in place to give you the illusion you have freedom of choice." Initech Sep 2013 #208

I will mourn the passing of your good faith. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #217

He's just another lying warmongering automaton furthering the interests of the 1% club. jsr Sep 2013 #220

I'm so sorry ... Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #227

Kerry's been "for it before he was against it" since 2003. This is not new for him. nt Romulox Sep 2013 #236

that's nice. It sounds like a speech he could give himself... yurbud Sep 2013 #237

Maybe it will wander around and libodem Sep 2013 #238

I can't fathom it, personally. nt proverbialwisdom Sep 2013 #242

RIP John Kerry's soul. DeSwiss Sep 2013 #245

RIP TeamPooka Sep 2013 #246

He protests vietnam, but supports military strikes against Syria. Omnith Sep 2013 #247

The UN is the only answer at this point. Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #251

RIP, John. RIP, Barack. RIP, Joe. I admired, voted for, now mourn for them all. leveymg Sep 2013 #252