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19. "Agree with me or you hate the troops"

Reply to leftstreet (Reply #17)

Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:30 PM

Sep 2013

Pretty much what his (her) argument boils down to.

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You know the hysterics regarding Syria are truly disrespectful [View all] pasto76 Sep 2013 OP

You have no idea what you're talking about. David__77 Sep 2013 #1

+10000000 NuclearDem Sep 2013 #5

no, you're correct, I dont have 'a sense' pasto76 Sep 2013 #33

It's not about me personally. David__77 Sep 2013 #39

Exactly...that's how Vietnam got started. First 'advisors' JimDandy Sep 2013 #67

That isn't the template for every intervention BainsBane Sep 2013 #99

I get where you are coming from. No problem. lumpy Sep 2013 #42

An easy rule of thumb to figure if something is a war or not Fumesucker Sep 2013 #2

This n/t tazkcmo Sep 2013 #6

You beat me to it LearningCurve Sep 2013 #24

+1000 Hydra Sep 2013 #26

Actually, technically, here's the thing Proud Public Servant Sep 2013 #43

Unless it was an act against the Bush Administration right? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #53

Thread winner. pa28 Sep 2013 #63

Agreed! n/t dflprincess Sep 2013 #85

Totally Hydra Sep 2013 #97

This could be the post of the month. Nicely said. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #104

I think you are parsing words. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #113

Oh, snap! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #121

Thank you. woo me with science Sep 2013 #65

Bingo. n/t DirkGently Sep 2013 #71

now that's reasonable Supersedeas Sep 2013 #94

I think so, fumesucker. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #114

We'll call it a war when Syria or its allies sink one or more of our ships (as she HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #119

+1,000 malaise Sep 2013 #144

Bullshit. US Military Industrial Complex has earned its reputation leftstreet Sep 2013 #3

Yup. unhappycamper Sep 2013 #146

Frankly, I'm more concerned about what is about to happen to the Syrians. rug Sep 2013 #4

Right. They certainly didn't volunteer for getting gassed and will not volunteer for any future lumpy Sep 2013 #45

They didn't volunteer to be in the middle of air strikes either. rug Sep 2013 #81

If it's really as minimal as you say, it will have a minimal impact on Syria. reformist2 Sep 2013 #7

International war crimes are just that whether by Bush or oBOMBa. daa Sep 2013 #8

Im sorry I 'dont sound like a veteran' to you pasto76 Sep 2013 #37

What do you call "way leftie people"? rug Sep 2013 #82

"way leftie people" RetroLounge Sep 2013 #100

Het bud daa Sep 2013 #152

We are NOT declaring a war...Hysterics is right! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #60

LOL, you realize that soldiers are required to fire these missiles? Soldiers that are away... Logical Sep 2013 #9

uh, no sailor will fire them. Sailors that are on float already pasto76 Sep 2013 #34

Yeah...huh...I am aware...I am the child of a "Lifer" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #107

If it is not war, what is it (would it be)? Just plain old murder? Taitertots Sep 2013 #10

or could it be....diminishing his ability to use more chemical weapons VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #62

You are so romantic. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #90

You are linking to an Onion piece and you call me "romantic"? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #95

It could be that too Taitertots Sep 2013 #154

if we just remove his chemical weapons....that is not necessarily a war... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #155

The way you say it almost trivializes what you are proposing Taitertots Sep 2013 #156

Hundreds? How do you know that?... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #157

Hundreds? Reasonable estimation Taitertots Sep 2013 #158

Plain ole imperialism - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #122

Under the UN Conventions we have signed it is a war crime nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #11

Ive seen multi posts calling for the end of the UN too here tonight lunasun Sep 2013 #128

I really wonder if the Syrian people are feeling hysterics. Autumn Sep 2013 #12

This may sound crass and selffish Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #13

so if Iran were to fire 100+ cruise missiles at the United States - that would not be war? Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #14

I guess the bombing of Pearl Harbor wasn't an act of war either? n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #28

You know that even 1 missile fired from Iran would be an Act of War n2doc Sep 2013 #52

Exactly! nt City Lights Sep 2013 #59

the op asked for r*e*s*p*e*c*t hopemountain Sep 2013 #15

Where are people disrespecting soldiers? leftstreet Sep 2013 #17

"Agree with me or you hate the troops" durablend Sep 2013 #19

That used to be a rightwing tactic leftstreet Sep 2013 #20

That's it, it's officially 2003 again. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #29

An argument that probably works.. sendero Sep 2013 #32

Im glad you dont see it pasto76 Sep 2013 #46

You accused DUers of disrespecting troops leftstreet Sep 2013 #101

A lot of them probably do mean to be, I'd wager. Posteritatis Sep 2013 #18

You want my r*e*s*p*e*c*t? 99Forever Sep 2013 #36

+100 truebluegreen Sep 2013 #92

Thank you. nt woo me with science Sep 2013 #102

They must think they're furthering their cause to Cha Sep 2013 #55

That is not true. I don't see disrespect of vets in the posts at all. cui bono Sep 2013 #64

He demanded respect but gave none. last1standing Sep 2013 #68

Stop waving the bloody shirt. It's unseemly - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #126

I can claim to be a vet on the 'net and you cant prove I'm not elehhhhna Sep 2013 #159

codswallop. Attacking another country with missiles is war cali Sep 2013 #16

No one in The USA was saying we were 'at war' with Libya when Obama intervened over in Libya Tx4obama Sep 2013 #23

plenty of people were, but one major difference was that Libya was cali Sep 2013 #31

so if NATO was used in Syria it would not be war ? JI7 Sep 2013 #38

uh, I was one of the people that was against Libya so your question is silly cali Sep 2013 #49

So when France helped us in the Revolutionary war...France then declared war on Great Britain? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #110

Yes, there was a formal state of war between Britain and France (and Spain, for that matter) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #139

We were also fighting to overthrow Kadaffi MNBrewer Sep 2013 #41

thanks for calling my 18 years of service 'not having a clue' pasto76 Sep 2013 #47

Well, let's see, you were pretyy dismissive of sailors upthread. rug Sep 2013 #83

Thank you for your service Pasto76....but don't expect an apology from most on this thread. pkdu Sep 2013 #112

exactly could you imagine if American command and control centers on U.S. soil were hit by 100+ Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #125

My experience is protesting wars. No, I don't automatically respect you for serving in cali Sep 2013 #140

It's just a few missiles neverforget Sep 2013 #21

Maybe to save thousands of lives. jessie04 Sep 2013 #22

How will us firing missiles at Syria save thousands of lives? neverforget Sep 2013 #25

We "saved" millions of people in Iraq Hydra Sep 2013 #27

Silly Hydra, don't you understand that we 'liberated' them? (At HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #127

But there's a lot of work to do!!! longship Sep 2013 #30

More war.. sendero Sep 2013 #35

I don't believe that my post expressed an opinion on war. longship Sep 2013 #48

Very True Denis 11 Sep 2013 #87

Well one could do something other than rail at the machine. longship Sep 2013 #89

Wow. now that's a unique spin technique I haven't seen yet MNBrewer Sep 2013 #40

That was a winner during Iraq. polly7 Sep 2013 #44

This was a little different, wasn't it? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #56

How was it different? polly7 Sep 2013 #70

We who opposed the Iraq war were told we didn't respect or support the troops MNBrewer Sep 2013 #72

Yes, I understood that from the OP. polly7 Sep 2013 #76

For certain! MNBrewer Sep 2013 #78

try not using 'war' pasto76 Sep 2013 #50

I imagine the people on the receiving end of our missile strikes would love to trade MNBrewer Sep 2013 #61

^^^this^^^ progressoid Sep 2013 #129

You realize neither Iraq nor Afghanistan are declared wars, don't you? rug Sep 2013 #84

Pretty transparently disingenuous though, eh? DirkGently Sep 2013 #73

They only leave behind Freedom Shrapnel. MNBrewer Sep 2013 #74

And patriot stains? DirkGently Sep 2013 #77

Depends on the stain MNBrewer Sep 2013 #79

Or "bug splats." woo me with science Sep 2013 #88

Cruise missiles are viewed differently by those who are on the receiving end. arcane1 Sep 2013 #51

No low you won't sink to n2doc Sep 2013 #54

Y'know what? Not calling this shit a 'war' is disrespectful to the cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #57

Did you enlist yet? And your kids? chimpymustgo Sep 2013 #58

I respect your service but that doesn't mean you get to frame the debate. last1standing Sep 2013 #66

Indeed! arcane1 Sep 2013 #86

What's disrespectful is the way elected officials serve... polichick Sep 2013 #69

wow.that was painfully ridiclous. bowens43 Sep 2013 #75

are you talking about us or them? Skittles Sep 2013 #80

Well, if it's not war Nevernose Sep 2013 #91

You do not speak for this veteran mick063 Sep 2013 #93

I disagree and here is why: jimlup Sep 2013 #96

Thank you. We can sit here and discuss what is war and what isn't snappyturtle Sep 2013 #153

Agreed. And remember, its the knee jerk reactionist who are always the loudest..... MzShellG Sep 2013 #98

Completely irrelevant LibAsHell Sep 2013 #106

The administation has been evaluating and gathering intelligence on this situation for a while..... MzShellG Sep 2013 #111

You can weigh the options, too LibAsHell Sep 2013 #115

Youre intitled to your opinion. I can respect that we will just have to disagree.... MzShellG Sep 2013 #117

I feel like shooting missiles and bombs is the knee-jerk reaction LibAsHell Sep 2013 #148

Absolutely. That sounds like a pretty logical option.... MzShellG Sep 2013 #149

Using the military to carry out foreign policy is war. When innocents die by our bombs, it is war. morningfog Sep 2013 #103

Fine, I won't call it a war LibAsHell Sep 2013 #105

The deal is that they have already engaged against Syria in a proxy war nolabels Sep 2013 #133

Kick for some rationality in this debate. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #108

I'm a veteran with an Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal. You DON'T speak for me. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #109

Interesting how the Syrian innocent civilians who'll die do not appear in your equation. ocpagu Sep 2013 #116

What the FUCK? sibelian Sep 2013 #118

So your definition of war is increased American divorce rates? cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #120

But But it is the hyperbole that matters! n/t HangOnKids Sep 2013 #124

Right a lot of hysteria from the Assad fan base. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #123

Assad fan base? progressoid Sep 2013 #130

It's the latest trend by the third wayers around here. Oakenshield Sep 2013 #136

War is the correct term. ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #131

Good god you talk like the only lives that matter are American soldiers Matariki Sep 2013 #132

Wait a minute... Oakenshield Sep 2013 #137

As a human that has had hard times, you have my compassion. Bonobo Sep 2013 #134

I'm beginning to see a lot of one issue voters B Calm Sep 2013 #135

Let me ask you this: Th1onein Sep 2013 #138

We have barely begun to be disrespectful about this dishonest crap yet , Sir. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #141

Bullshit. Iggo Sep 2013 #142

What a load of elephant dung. LWolf Sep 2013 #143

Pasto, a missle strike is an act of war Marrah_G Sep 2013 #145

Im sorry, but this is like those RWers screaming over the word "marriage". bunnies Sep 2013 #147

By this standard Germany was not at "war" with England during the Battle of Britain. nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #150

More hysterical than this whiny little missive? n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #151