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DonCoquixote

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120. Nature is not a cure

Wed Sep 4, 2013, 01:59 AM

Sep 2013

because while there are many liberal farmers and rural folk, the bastion of conservatism is in the rural areas, why? Because America was funded by people who thought that if they got their own bit of land, they could be independent and not have to depend on anyone. I may hate Ted Nugent, but I have to admit, he knows nature better than many city dwellers do, and could probably hold his own in the woods, does that mean that he is one bit less willing to support the civil war on the weak, no, he uses his love of nature as the excuse.

I only bring this up because I have heard nature used as both a panacea, and as an excuse for hate by the GOP. I even had a fiancee tell me straight that if Dixie won, it would be better for Gaia because slaves would prevent industry (did I tell you she was a Wiccan?)

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When Our Neighbors Wish Us Dead or Broke, We're in Trouble with More Than Our Health Care System [View all] xchrom Sep 2013 OP

I don't know what it is. Puglover Sep 2013 #1

I'm related to some of them. Have relatives who literally BRAG that... Triana Sep 2013 #18

We had damn well better figure out "what it is." Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #31

It's the same attitude the pre-WWII german population had. Hubert Flottz Sep 2013 #36

Its Ayn Rand on steroids warrant46 Sep 2013 #78

You are so spot on Jackpine. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #82

I live in the country for exactly the reasons you're talking about. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #93

Nature is not a cure DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #120

Actually, I think rural life as it was lived prior to, say, WWII, Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #130

Sorry to sound brusque DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #137

Being in sync with nature is not the same as living a rural life, CrispyQ Sep 2013 #138

But he works for the Federal government instead of getting a real job. SharonAnn Sep 2013 #90

Government-employed republicans .... the_sly_pig Sep 2013 #97

"Eventually there will be a split. Rome didn't last forever either." CrispyQ Sep 2013 #101

Federal govt. is a real job. What does that mean? WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #128

Judge and Jury Of Our Healthcare System grilled onions Sep 2013 #2

I had idiot Republican conservatives say that to me when I had a job that didn't offer health raccoon Sep 2013 #83

I've been sensing this too--a sort of "expendables" cleansing zazen Sep 2013 #3

My biology teacher said NC had the most stupid people on the planet. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #5

Was he or she from SC? - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #6

I don't think so. She had no accent at all. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #11

I guess they didn't travel much n2doc Sep 2013 #9

Actually she traveled a lot. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #13

Stupid begets stupid Mopar151 Sep 2013 #124

Ain't it the truth. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #126

we might soon, if the GOP succeeds in dismantling our great universities zazen Sep 2013 #10

Tell me about it. When I got my nursing degree I was astounded. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #14

Imadoctoritis. A highly contagious malady that spreads like a wildfire on medical school Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #40

Based on some attorneys I know, enlightenment Sep 2013 #131

Drs and lawyers, what a mix. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #135

Plenty of disability attorneys who feel the same way your bio teacher does Supersedeas Sep 2013 #12

I don't get your meaning at all. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #17

Your smart, well-traveled teacher doesn't sound very professional. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #59

That smart, well-traveled teacher sounds like she knows what she's talking about. loudsue Sep 2013 #92

I live in North Carolina, too, LS. Non-native, though. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #94

Ouch. Yeah it is scary when they are hateful to boot. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #129

They *do* want so called undesirables to die pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #106

Why would you cry over this ahole? WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #4

"I don't know that I would lift a finger if he was having a medical crisis." WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #27

He would probably sue me. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #38

NCLEX too hard? n/t Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #46

No. I have an RRT credential which is harder than the NCLEX. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #62

Respiratory therapy exam Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #75

I've taken all 3. Have you? WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #85

Why would I take any of those exams? Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #95

If I have to explain it. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #116

I do work in the medical field. Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #118

Yes HIPAA. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #125

You are wrong about it and none of the list of things in your imaginary rant happened to you. Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #132

No, you are wrong. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #133

Wow, you're out there. Bunnahabhain Sep 2013 #136

No I didn't, but there you go lying again. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #139

LOL I'll take my *outrage* wherever I damn please. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #52

Why so angry? WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #63

Just like Bill Frist offering up a medical diagnosis based on videos... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #74

This must be the worse before better. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #86

No, the "worse" would be not lifting a finger if someone were having a medical crisis. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #96

I'd call 911. Never said I wouldn't. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #117

Thanks for posting. I believe the sickness is 'imperial rot' and it goes way, way HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #7

with what money...how??? matt in france Sep 2013 #42

I didn't bother trying to poke at the RW mentality. But if I had to hazard a guess, their thinking HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #44

+1 imperial rot indeed! n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #56

k/r marmar Sep 2013 #8

hey you -- seems like ages since i've seen you. all is well? xchrom Sep 2013 #16

Yes buddy, I'm good. ...... Summer haze -- I've been taking a DU break...... marmar Sep 2013 #21

Social Darwinists have always existed, but Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2013 #15

"magical thinking" and distancing . . . ^^ this ^^ zazen Sep 2013 #22

I'm currently reading... haikugal Sep 2013 #60

plenty of rednecks matt in france Sep 2013 #67

True...to a point. haikugal Sep 2013 #68

Thanks, I'll look for it. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #70

He does it with some grace and lots of humor... haikugal Sep 2013 #71

I second the recommendation of that book Populist_Prole Sep 2013 #107

There is a lot in what you say here. Mopar151 Sep 2013 #127

k&r Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #19

I hate pricks like this guy. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #20

Someone who needs medical care for a loved one is going to head for the ER and MADem Sep 2013 #51

Yep, that was my point. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #58

As more people see the benefits, there's likely going to be more enthusiasm for SP down the line. MADem Sep 2013 #84

I'm glad that your relative had the care he so deserved. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #87

I remember a family holiday dinner, arguing about health care mountain grammy Sep 2013 #23

I would have looked straight at them, and told them ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #57

With attitudes like that, Brigid Sep 2013 #72

This is what 50 years of realigned Republican populism has brought us. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #24

my neighbor across the street turned my horses loose by the side of the road magical thyme Sep 2013 #25

Sounds like your punky neighbors are doin' some "Regulatin'." Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #37

the cameras arrived last week magical thyme Sep 2013 #39

Regulating has little support today, even in conservative, rural parts. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #45

I'm so sorry you have to deal with someone like that. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #69

k&r avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #26

so sorry you had to endure this hatred, xchrom. people like him are impossible to educate, or even niyad Sep 2013 #28

the idiot mantra: taxes = welfare. KG Sep 2013 #29

and of course they feel very strongly that way right up until it happens to them. unblock Sep 2013 #30

With age, comes wisdom. Eventually, you can smell out idiots like this closeupready Sep 2013 #32

Wisdom doesn't always come with age. Actually in the last election Romney's best demographic totodeinhere Sep 2013 #43

It happened with me. I guess everyone's not so lucky? closeupready Sep 2013 #47

I tell people like that we could always bring back an old industry ismnotwasm Sep 2013 #33

+1 n/t Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #81

He doesn't realize that he too is one medical disaster away from bankruptcy. peace13 Sep 2013 #34

+1 n/t area51 Sep 2013 #121

To even hold such hateful views requires a closed mind. gtar100 Sep 2013 #35

I've talked to people like that. I usually say:Well, I understand your feelings. Most sociopaths.. BlueJazz Sep 2013 #41

Also, on "To The Contrary" this past weekend, a female panelist closeupready Sep 2013 #48

reading this riverbendviewgal Sep 2013 #49

I'll second that! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #91

interesting how we are ignored here riverbendviewgal Sep 2013 #99

It's the tear-others-down mentality winning over the build-everyone-up mentality. reformist2 Sep 2013 #50

"He didn't answer in words, just shrugged his shoulders again and smiled." ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #53

ron paul is a doctor matt in france Sep 2013 #73

Ron Paul thinks your health hinges on his and other's charity ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #76

i disagree with him on this issue matt in france Sep 2013 #80

They're all against socialism until they need it. Thav Sep 2013 #54

So he works for a prison that provides some health care. L0oniX Sep 2013 #55

Another attitude these teabaggers have maryellen99 Sep 2013 #61

Until THEY need it NutjobMichele Sep 2013 #64

I want to know Highway61 Sep 2013 #65

Tell him that single-payer healthcare would help him remove his head from his ass Orrex Sep 2013 #66

i love you orrex -- but read your header. so to speak. xchrom Sep 2013 #77

LOL! Whoopsie! Orrex Sep 2013 #79

Chronic, life-long, and pre-existing condition. nt Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #110

The real problem is smallcat88 Sep 2013 #88

People are being re educated, felix_numinous Sep 2013 #89

Fascism can only exist where there is cruelty and intolerance. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #98

fear is a factor booley Sep 2013 #100

Once again the irony of ironies TomClash Sep 2013 #102

Don't let people like this haunt you. colorado_ufo Sep 2013 #103

Oh, I do like your attitude! mountain grammy Sep 2013 #105

The real problem with the US and in the US. "I got mine, so f.... well you know the rest. marble falls Sep 2013 #104

He works for the federal prison system? Our taxes pay for his whiney teabagging ass! muntrv Sep 2013 #108

Why should I pay sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #109

and so many of those folk who think that way claim to be Christians Skittles Sep 2013 #111

There are a whole lot of "people" in this world who actually aren't, for one thing. nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #112

. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #113

Where's the basis anymore for believing that financial security... Beartracks Sep 2013 #114

Do we want a lasting productive nation that will benefit the majority ... slipslidingaway Sep 2013 #115

So why should people who can't afford or don't have access to health care insurance have to SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #119

America's special brand of unbridled, fend-for-yourself capitalism is Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #122

Next time you get machine gun questions, ask what civilization is, what cave man ethics are. ancianita Sep 2013 #123

Why did we EVER think a society based on devil-take-the-hindmost capitalism Romulox Sep 2013 #134