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In reply to the discussion: Sarasota Mother Shot Her Daughter, 1, Then Turned Gun on Herself [View all]aikoaiko
(34,214 posts)91. An unattributed assertion from anti-gun Bloomberg press.
Here is some actual news reporting instead of the revisionist screed you embrace. Hammer was involved in the legislation and maybe her granddaughter was asked about guns in the home, but the event that started this unfortunate legislation was a doctor's refusal to accept that people like to keep some aspect of their lives private.
http://www.amednews.com/article/20110131/government/301319963/4/
Physicians and Florida gun ownership advocates are battling over a state bill that would fine and imprison physicians who ask if their patients have guns.
State Rep. Jason Brodeur, a Republican, introduced the bill, which could send doctors to jail for up to five years and fine them up to $5 million for asking about patients' gun ownership, refusing to treat patients who won't answer such questions or entering gun ownership information into any record. The bill has the support of the National Rifle Assn. State Sen. Greg Evers, also a Republican, introduced an identical bill in the state Senate.
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The Florida bill was prompted in part by a July 2010 exchange between Ocala, Fla., pediatrician Chris Okonkwo, MD, and the 26-year-old mother of a 4-month-old patient. Dr. Okonkwo asked the mother if she owned a gun, but she refused to answer. For that reason, the physician gave her 30 days to find a new pediatrician, according to the Ocala Star-Banner. Dr. Okonkwo declined to speak to American Medical News for this article.
Physicians and Florida gun ownership advocates are battling over a state bill that would fine and imprison physicians who ask if their patients have guns.
State Rep. Jason Brodeur, a Republican, introduced the bill, which could send doctors to jail for up to five years and fine them up to $5 million for asking about patients' gun ownership, refusing to treat patients who won't answer such questions or entering gun ownership information into any record. The bill has the support of the National Rifle Assn. State Sen. Greg Evers, also a Republican, introduced an identical bill in the state Senate.
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The Florida bill was prompted in part by a July 2010 exchange between Ocala, Fla., pediatrician Chris Okonkwo, MD, and the 26-year-old mother of a 4-month-old patient. Dr. Okonkwo asked the mother if she owned a gun, but she refused to answer. For that reason, the physician gave her 30 days to find a new pediatrician, according to the Ocala Star-Banner. Dr. Okonkwo declined to speak to American Medical News for this article.
Here is another piece on the well-documented event that started the legislation response (albeit wrong).
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100723/NEWS/100729867
When the 26-year-old Summerfield woman refused the answer, the Ocala doctor finished her child's examination and told her she had 30 days to find a new pediatrician and that she wasn't welcome at Children's Health of Ocala anymore.
Whether I have a gun has nothing to do with the health of my child, said the mother of three girls.
The question about the gun had been the last in a series of health questions about Ullmon's 4-month old baby that Dr. Chris Okonkwo had been asking.
And I'm upset because my children were discharged because I refused to answer the question whether I have a gun in the house. It's a very invasive and a very personal question, said Ullman, who works as a property manager.
Whether I have a gun has nothing to do with the health of my child, said the mother of three girls.
The question about the gun had been the last in a series of health questions about Ullmon's 4-month old baby that Dr. Chris Okonkwo had been asking.
And I'm upset because my children were discharged because I refused to answer the question whether I have a gun in the house. It's a very invasive and a very personal question, said Ullman, who works as a property manager.
Maybe Ullman is Hammer's granddaughter.
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No, the method available ABSOLUTELY matters. A gun makes suicide 5 times more likely.
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#32
One estimate says 114 million handguns in the US, so 1% is just over a million to worry about...
Thor_MN
Sep 2013
#35
well, we could have better drains and such. And who NEEDS tubs, we have showers
The Straight Story
Sep 2013
#16
I see you have attracted the folks who want to continue infesting this country with more guns.
madinmaryland
Sep 2013
#18
Ahh yes, could you get more dishonest than using one number that is only kids under 5 and...
Lee-Lee
Sep 2013
#23
Most kids who drown ARE under 5; taking the age up to 19 won't change the statistics all that much.
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#26
You've got quite a "problem," especially if you try dating one of those 17 year old "adults."
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#81
The vast majority of gun deaths are suicides. "Safe storage" will not prevent that.
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#98
Are you suggesting people will just jump off buildings if they don't have guns?
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#104
So you support PSAs that say you are far more likely to be killed by your own gun than saved by it?
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#105
I agree with you. The woman may have been in deep depression. She would have used
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#70
how about if i feel horrible for the father that walked into that home.... nt
seabeyond
Sep 2013
#21
I bet he bought that gun to "protect" his family, believing the gun mfrs' propaganda.
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#25
i guess me feeling bad for the father is not good enough.... i will stick with that. nt
seabeyond
Sep 2013
#31
Could we compromise on requiring guns to be kept unloaded, apart, and locked in separate places?
raging moderate
Sep 2013
#33
I think gun owners could exercise some common-sense policing of their own ranks.
raging moderate
Sep 2013
#42
Yeah, but this is the anti-choice view, which is approved of so it will stay
The Straight Story
Sep 2013
#56
This OP raises a question in my mind about depression that some women experience after
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#69
Note: Here in Florida, they made it ILLEGAL for a doctor to ask if there were any guns in the house
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2013
#75
When there's a gun actually in the house, it's all the more real of a situation.
Tommy_Carcetti
Sep 2013
#113
Wrong. the law was written because a doctor denied ongoing service to a parent who
aikoaiko
Sep 2013
#87