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21. It isn't a global ban if the US, Russia, and China didn't sign onto it.

Reply to Tierra_y_Libertad (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2013, 01:34 PM

Sep 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Cluster_Munitions

In the map shown at the link, the purple areas show countries that ratified the convention. The blue areas show countries that signed the convention but whose legislatures haven't ratified it.

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U.S. Shipping Thousands of Cluster Bombs to Saudis, Despite Global Ban - Foreign Policy [View all] Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 OP

Man, time for some surgical strikes. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #1

That red line must be made of chalk that disappears in the wind. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #2

The Irony of it all warrant46 Sep 2013 #3

One more act of peace malaise Sep 2013 #4

peace and profit Supersedeas Sep 2013 #56

Why would the Saudi's need cluster bombs? Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #5

Just gearing up for the inevitable shooting war with Iran. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #6

They could come in handy against their own restive Shia population. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #24

That Shia population works at the oil fields (in a way keeps them semi-pacified) Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #25

Well, we can't ship weapons to our proxy armies, but the Saudis can, if needed. So it could be a sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #33

'weapons laundering' - exactly what crossed my mind. ConcernedCanuk Sep 2013 #45

Israel. They fear Israel grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #65

No they don't Scootaloo Sep 2013 #67

Is this to protect the children? leftstreet Sep 2013 #7

You have to ask yourself~why would the US ship cluster bombs to a radical RW authoritarian monarchy Zorra Sep 2013 #8

WTF is our government doing in our name? pscot Sep 2013 #17

Isn't it obvious? They don't give a fuck what we think ...and never really will give a fuck. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #62

How many of the 9/11 hijackers were we told came from Saudi Arabia? woo me with science Sep 2013 #20

15 of 19 9/11 hijackers had Saudi passports;new special travel benefits 4 Saudis a Slap in the Face Divernan Sep 2013 #49

I keep running out of adequate words for the sick feeling. woo me with science Sep 2013 #64

But that doesn't cross a red line. progressoid Sep 2013 #9

Hypocrisy rules in this country newfie11 Sep 2013 #10

! City Lights Sep 2013 #13

+1 Blood for money. woo me with science Sep 2013 #57

Adding a link to another article about this arms sale, with video of cluster bomb. enough Sep 2013 #11

Nice website you found and like, cool they support NewsMax snooper2 Sep 2013 #12

So the US isn't shipping cluster bombs to SA? morningfog Sep 2013 #14

I'll wait for a legitimate news organization instead of this trash and snooper2 Sep 2013 #16

... Solly Mack Sep 2013 #18

At the original source, yes that place is a fucking joke... snooper2 Sep 2013 #19

Thanks for posting Go Vols Sep 2013 #37

Interesting how "legitimate news organizations" have not run with this. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #29

Nice, but off the mark, attempt to deflect. Don't deal with the issue, look for something, anything sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #36

+1 well said. delrem Sep 2013 #47

OK, try these...... LongTomH Sep 2013 #54

climbing on up on to that moral high-ground KG Sep 2013 #15

It isn't a global ban if the US, Russia, and China didn't sign onto it. pnwmom Sep 2013 #21

And Syria didn't sign the chemical weapons ban. woo me with science Sep 2013 #22

Yeah, but that's different... Celefin Sep 2013 #28

Ouch. woo me with science Sep 2013 #34

You're welcome! Celefin Sep 2013 #42

And remember, if any of the 80+ signatories to the cluster bomb ban enforce it by lobbing City Lights Sep 2013 #35

Yep, the US will then repent, promise to never do it again and the President will step down Celefin Sep 2013 #46

remember how quaint the Geneva Convention is Supersedeas Sep 2013 #59

Well, there goes that argument. . sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #40

+1 woo me with science Sep 2013 #55

Where is the international outrage lsewpershad Sep 2013 #23

I know! Someone should "send a message" to the exporter of these indiscriminate WMD Dragonfli Sep 2013 #30

Crossin' one o' them there red lines, ain't we. Iggo Sep 2013 #26

MIC! MIC! MIC! polichick Sep 2013 #27

But the production of weapons of mass carnage is such a profitable venture indepat Sep 2013 #31

In Secretary Kerry's words: a moral obscenity indepat Sep 2013 #32

Doesn't count! atreides1 Sep 2013 #38

So much more discriminate that Sarin ... they leave blood and visible wounds. GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #39

They didn't leave much when Bush used them in Iraq airc. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #41

I hear that children love them ...they think they are toys and go to pick them up ....BOOM! L0oniX Sep 2013 #63

! blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #43

But It's OK if WE use them Wolf Frankula Sep 2013 #44

HEADLINE: ''Peace Prize Winner Sells Cluster Bombs To Arabs'' DeSwiss Sep 2013 #48

This thread wins the prize for today's Fresh Hell; what could be worse than cluster bombs. Divernan Sep 2013 #52

Spreading the love. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #50

'moral high grounds' are where other wise smart people go to make spectacularly failed swan dives. n xchrom Sep 2013 #51

The Saudis never dirty themselves in direct war felix_numinous Sep 2013 #53

And we refuse to ban landmines. DirkGently Sep 2013 #58

kick Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #60

Uh Oh. Sounds like somebody can't obey the law and needs an ass whoopin! kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #61

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2013 #66

kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #68

Actually Saudi Arabia has joined.... EX500rider Sep 2013 #69

More info on the CBU-105 EX500rider Sep 2013 #70