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alcibiades_mystery

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12. He didn't get what he publicly stated he wanted

Reply to leveymg (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 4, 2013, 04:24 PM

Sep 2013

You're right: that's not complicated.

I'll let others determine what "crafted to his tastes" means.

To me, it means if he wanted X, and didn't get it, then it wasn't "crafted to his tastes." So, yes, I think your representation is inaccurate. I suppose you have a different understanding of "crafted to ones taste" that includes "not getting what you asked for."

The "X" - or what he asked for and did not get - in this case is relatively important, I should think: McCain wanted the resolution to include the possibility of deploying ground forces. The resolution as passed explicitly forbids that. So, no, I don't consider it a matter of semantics. It is deeply substantial whether the resolution ALLOWS or FORBIDS the use of ground troops for combat operations.

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McCrazy voted yes only after tougher Syria war resolution was crafted to his tastes [View all] leveymg Sep 2013 OP

Oh, that's OK. It's not a real war...it's....it's...well....something else. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #1

Hit me Blue Owl Sep 2013 #2

That's not accurate alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #3

You can snarfle, snuff, nitpick, as you like, but it's accurate - what's the difference between leveymg Sep 2013 #10

He didn't get what he publicly stated he wanted alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #12

You mean, he didn't get EVERYTHING he wanted. leveymg Sep 2013 #13

McCain wanted boots on the ground...the resolution forbids it...if that's a nitpick, well alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #14

He gets regime change, which is what McCain wanted to begin with. It'll take >90 days to get boots leveymg Sep 2013 #15

OK alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #16

Senate Panel Votes To Make Regime Change The Goal Of Syria Mission ProSense Sep 2013 #4

Isn't "reversing the situation on the ground" the same as "getting involved in a civil war?" arcane1 Sep 2013 #9

"Changing the momentum on the ground." Jesus, we are opening a bullwinkle428 Sep 2013 #5

That doesn't sound limited to me. What does it take to change momentum given the totality of Assad dkf Sep 2013 #6

Now Obama will be forced to carry it out against his will. Just like spying on US citizens. The Link Sep 2013 #7

Yeah, sucks that he ends up doing so much stuff he really doesn't want to...nt joeybee12 Sep 2013 #11

Dear God in Heaven, save us from ourselves. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #8