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Eleanors38

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25. Another false charge...

Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:16 PM

Sep 2013

"Once again you object to the public's being informed of gun violence"

False as you very well know.

You draw this from my inquiry of "what is the point?"

Some play this game a lot, as you very well know. Always oblique, glancing and fulla false charges and personal attacks by implication... Just a tad short of being explicit.

You speak of "ideology requires suppressing... something is seriously wrong." Maybe you should do something about it?

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Florida man invokes Stand Your Ground after shooting 11 times, killing 2 and injuring a third. [View all] BainsBane Sep 2013 OP

How in the hell do you claim stand your ground when you snuck up on the people you shot giftedgirl77 Sep 2013 #1

I think he is claiming they had been harassing him for some time BainsBane Sep 2013 #3

Well, he can "claim" anything he wants. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #54

Premeditated. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #64

Thats how they roll....in Florida . nt Vanje Sep 2013 #5

Both of my parents are from Florida giftedgirl77 Sep 2013 #8

They'll find a jury stupid enough to find him not guilty brush Sep 2013 #13

Like that moron in Houston who tried to "manufacture" his own SYG shooting Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #15

Did that work? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #17

nope.... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #20

Funny, in your link I saw very little of "quite a few" Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #30

I said "early on" in the case Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #40

Well, I rarely comment on individual cases while in Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #47

People have lost their damn minds... giftedgirl77 Sep 2013 #18

Gun-fuckers in action. Iggo Sep 2013 #26

Ahem. That's "gunhumpers" according to GD style manual. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #32

We'll have to keep that in mind BainsBane Sep 2013 #51

You would just love the post today which claimed gun owners Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #52

In the gungeon? BainsBane Sep 2013 #58

Oh, it could be in three (3) groups/forum, I forget. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #59

He also invoked the Bush Doctrine. City Lights Sep 2013 #2

Yes, they called it a "preemptive strike" as permitted liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #57

We should ban not guilty pleas too. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #4

In his (twisted) mind, "they" were out to get him meow2u3 Sep 2013 #6

Who was out to get who? brush Sep 2013 #10

That's my point meow2u3 Sep 2013 #43

Let's hope the judge agrees. BainsBane Sep 2013 #14

The guy who *survived* was shot 11 times. Robb Sep 2013 #7

Damn.. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #9

Handguns are notoriously poor mankillers. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #55

Without knowing the races of the parties involved, it's hard to say whether he will be let off. denverbill Sep 2013 #11

true BainsBane Sep 2013 #12

In Florida whites have a higher conviction rate in SYG cases than blacks hack89 Sep 2013 #23

when they shoot other whites. when they shoot black people, they get off much easier. bettyellen Sep 2013 #41

There are so few cases of white on black or black on white murder hack89 Sep 2013 #44

Or as "Thug for Life" said in the cartoon Candorville Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #48

Impossible. Whites don't shoot other whites. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #62

The numbers do not agree with you. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #63

He can claim anything he wants. Doesn't mean he'll get it. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #16

the point is it's a news story BainsBane Sep 2013 #21

Another false charge... Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #25

He can claim anything, including that they were Klingons and he was defending the Federation... Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #19

That defense is ridiculous and will not work with Stand your ground. n/t 1awake Sep 2013 #22

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out... ileus Sep 2013 #24

If he wins the case based on SYG, a very large can of worms will be opened. It would mean that one AlinPA Sep 2013 #60

Jesus Christ fucking gun nuts gopiscrap Sep 2013 #27

Already advocated. How's it workin' out? Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #33

what besides her gun, her 38, of Eleanor Roosevelt, did you like? CreekDog Sep 2013 #56

You haven't asked that before; you wanted some reading list. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #61

Stupid claim, but don't be surprised if he wins the case. 'He was threatened', so it's OK to shoot. AlinPA Sep 2013 #28

the U.S. Isn't "gun crazy," but some like the defendant seem that way. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #35

To all the people in this thread saying that "he can claim SYG, but it doesn't mean it will fly", Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #29

+100000. Hoyt Sep 2013 #31

Nah, my money is on the BDD: Bush Doctrine Defense. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #34

precisely. BainsBane Sep 2013 #39

and the dead and injured don't figure into the discussion for them. bettyellen Sep 2013 #42

Yes. That's it. AlinPA Sep 2013 #50

Where do you stand on insanity pleas and plain ol' self-defense pleas? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #65

What the fuck does that have to do with the topic of this thread? Moses2SandyKoufax Sep 2013 #67

I'm addressing the fact that any legitimate plea can be abused for illegitimate reasons. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #68

Just another day in the life of ... 99Forever Sep 2013 #36

Incredible. If he suffers from PTSD then that would be the defense, no? Stand your ground Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #37

I'm sure PTSD will be considered as lawyers have used it Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #49

He can claim it... sarisataka Sep 2013 #38

Here's a link with a mugshot. Smiley sort, ain't he? nolabear Sep 2013 #45

He looks pleased with himself BainsBane Sep 2013 #46

If only everyone had guns. Then they could all be dead. Gungeoneer logic. nt valerief Sep 2013 #53

Happily all his victims were victimized while unarmed. Pro-criminal logic. nt Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #66